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Old Aug 3, 2023 | 09:00 AM
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I don't know, the electrician made the installation for me, certified and approved by the firefighters. I have been using it for 6 years to charge the Panamera and it works perfectly.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2023 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bebo67
I don't know, the electrician made the installation for me, certified and approved by the firefighters. I have been using it for 6 years to charge the Panamera and it works perfectly.
Assuming the version is the same as the one they sell in the US, when I installed mine (since upgraded to a ChargePoint), it specifically noted that it must be hardwired per its UL/CE listing. Idk about Italy but a lot of US insurance companies are now fighting unrelated electrical fire claims if there's an EVSE installed without a permit or outside of mfr guidelines.
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You can definitely do the calculations and cut the amperage down in the settings to match the cord, plug, and socket being used. That would likely be "safe" although still outside of the instructions leaving you exposed to liability.
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If they're running it at full 80 amps, it will eventually become a problem.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2023 | 12:30 PM
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So many electricians and do it yourselfers installing NEMA 14-50 (50 amp receptacle) for 50 to 80 amp EVSE's and it just doesn't work.

I'll stfu but 80% of our work is fire and life safety systems so it's hard to just walk away from a conversation like this.

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Old Aug 3, 2023 | 01:59 PM
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speaking as a multiple EV car owner, the plug and charger should work fine. At worst it'll charge 'slower' because the Amp rating isn't to the level that the car supports, at best it'll step down to the max amperage tat the defender can take. The plug is standard for each major geography (NA, EU, etc). For example I have a 240V/32A charger. that was the max my first EV (Chevy Bolt) could used. I then got a Tesla Model X which could charge up to 240/72A, since the EVSE only put out 32A max it charged from 0 - 90% in about 8 hours orr so. except at least in the US going over 32A makes it very expensive, and I sleep longer than it took to charge overnight and I rarely ran it down to 0% so it never mattered to me.

I was bummed the PHEV defender weren't available in the US, would probably have gotten one if they were.
 
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