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Well - sadly my wife hit the kerb and shredded the tire. I tried your method with the suspension all the way down - but no luck. It was basically the same as having it all the way up - except I had to lift the car even higher. So at the absolute limit of the bottle jack I could get the flat tire off - but not enough space to get the spare on. Had to deflate it to zero, squash it on then reinflate it
Looking at your picture, my car has to lift quite a bit higher to get the wheel off the ground. I have 22 inch wheels - wonder if that makes a difference. Bigger total diameter? Heavier so the suspension is pulled down further
I don't know. But I need a jack with more lift height that is solid/secure...
rim size is irrelevant.
All OEM tires are 32” +/-0.1”
weight of rim is irrelevant
If you have the same floor jack O have something is not right here. You should have zero issues.
You’re doing something odd I think.
You remember to leave a door ajar? Turn off ignition etc.
I can guarantee I could swap all tires on any non-lifted defender with my jack.
Maybe the extension on my jack isn't high enough / but I have tried both my trolley jacks and my 10 ton bottle back and no luck with any. I've changed wheels on my discovery and before that my LR4 for years with no problems. Car had to jack up high but it was doable. On the defender the wheel articulation is on another level!
Any chance you can post the specific jack model / number that you are using so I can research the specs?
Maybe the extension on my jack isn't high enough / but I have tried both my trolley jacks and my 10 ton bottle back and no luck with any. I've changed wheels on my discovery and before that my LR4 for years with no problems. Car had to jack up high but it was doable. On the defender the wheel articulation is on another level!
Any chance you can post the specific jack model / number that you are using so I can research the specs?
I thought you said you had the same floor jack. Sounds like your jack is too small.
My 3 ton trolley jack lifts to a max height of 20 inches. Yours says a little over 18inch
And mine maxed out at 20 inches doesn't lift the wheel off the ground
It's a puzzle..
For now I will double jack it using axel stands. But that's a pain!
My 3 ton trolley jack lifts to a max height of 20 inches. Yours says a little over 18inch
And mine maxed out at 20 inches doesn't lift the wheel off the ground
It's a puzzle..
For now I will double jack it using axel stands. But that's a pain!
My guess is because you are lifting from pinch welds and Cincy is lifting from rock sliders???
Ok - I have finally worked out the issues jacking up the car and posting here for others who might be struggling
Firstly, my 3-ton trolley jack has a very impressive 21 inches of max lift height and worked perfectly on the LR4 and the Discovery (both with air suspension). The issue on the defender is that while it lifts higher than many other trolley jacks (including GavinC's one) - that's only when using the saddle extension piece that has a start point of nearly 10 inches. So the total actual lift range is just over 10inches. Not enough to get the wheel off the floor...
So I replaced it with a new 3T husky floor trolley jack that lifts from 3inch to 19 inch (no saddle extender). This works easily. Car in lowest suspension height, leave door open (as I've always done) and the new jack lifts it effortlessly with an inch or two of space under the tyre
Also - note that the new 3T husky jack feels way more solid and tough than the old 3T Torin I've had for years.
So - overall a good upgrade of jacks and now easy to pop the tyre. In case anyone looking, I got the Husky 3-Ton Low Profile Floor Jack with Quick Lift from Home Depot
Final note / it's a lot more robust, but also a lot heavier - almost 80lbs...
So - problem solved. But a note to anyone buying a new jack. Get one with a wide lift range as well as high top end height. And - given the weight of these cars and how high you have to lift, I strongly recommend a more robust jack.
I posted in a different thread that I had used a 2 ton HF bottle jack. That had worked fine on my driveway but not on the uneven surface I had to deal with yesterday. Fortunately I had the spare under the vehicle when the bottle jack (with pinch weld adapter) slipped off. I ended up having to use the scissor jack that came with the vehicle which was safer but led to smashed knuckles on both hands, lots of swearing and a ton of sweat.
in common with other experiences earlier in the thread, after I got the old tire off I needed ti lift again by another 2-3” to get the replacement on. At the max I need 18” lift to change the tire.
So I’m looking for a hydraulic jack to keep in the vehicle that lifts 18” and works on the pinch welds and also does not cost $900 like the ARB. Not really finding too many good options. What are people using?
