Discovery I Talk about the Land Rover Discovery Series I within.

98 not getting warm enough

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #11  
Old 11-07-2014, 08:47 AM
philwarner's Avatar
Rock Crawling
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: NorthWest Arkansas
Posts: 379
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by fishEH
Sounds like a stuck open T-stat. At least its better than a stuck closed one.
Siphon some coolant out of the radiator into a bucket and you'll avoid a lot of spillage when you pull the T-stat.
I'd go with the 180* one. These aging cooling systems could use a little advantage.

I forgot to ask if there is a drain tap on the radiator bottom or if sucking coolent from the top is the easiest way to lower the level.

Went by an O'Reilly's yesterday and picked up a 180 degree non-locking T-stat with a bleed hole and giggle pin; Box says Murray Ultra 15358 made in Israel. Their next choice was a 195 degree; seemed safer to go cooler than OEM rather than hotter, but I'll check it in a pan first to see where it actually opens.

I bought a generic chevy engine T-stat gasket to see if it can be made to fit because the one they show for both a 98 and a 96 Disco was a large one with 5 or 6 holes around the center opening. Got to take swmbo to the doctor today, but will try to check out the T-stat tomorrow.
 
  #12  
Old 11-07-2014, 09:16 AM
fishEH's Avatar
Camel Trophy
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Lake Villa, IL
Posts: 4,079
Received 226 Likes on 195 Posts
Default

No radiator drain. Its easier and creates less mess to siphon from the top rather than drain out the lower radiator hose.


Originally Posted by philwarner
I forgot to ask if there is a drain tap on the radiator bottom or if sucking coolent from the top is the easiest way to lower the level.

Went by an O'Reilly's yesterday and picked up a 180 degree non-locking T-stat with a bleed hole and giggle pin; Box says Murray Ultra 15358 made in Israel. Their next choice was a 195 degree; seemed safer to go cooler than OEM rather than hotter, but I'll check it in a pan first to see where it actually opens.

I bought a generic chevy engine T-stat gasket to see if it can be made to fit because the one they show for both a 98 and a 96 Disco was a large one with 5 or 6 holes around the center opening. Got to take swmbo to the doctor today, but will try to check out the T-stat tomorrow.
 
  #13  
Old 11-07-2014, 09:34 AM
MM3846's Avatar
Winching
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: LI, NY
Posts: 619
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

OEM tstat is fully open by 88C/190F.

apparently, UK stats lists temp when fully open, US ones when they start to open. so a stant/motorad/whatever 180F stat is correct for OEM. I'm running a genuine LR 88C one, for no reason other than to keep it working as it was designed (and it was only 6 or 7 bucks). it's been cooler now since summer is over, but i've yet to see anything above 188-190F according to my gauge.
 
  #14  
Old 11-07-2014, 05:34 PM
Mark G's Avatar
Recovery Vehicle
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 779
Received 52 Likes on 43 Posts
Default

Hey, I'm just curious if other people's gauges display 'roughly' correctly, or if the needle is off? On mine, the vehicle temp is correct but the needle sits about 1/2 way up the scale when warm. It would seem to me that it would be more correct if it were at about 2/3 to 3/4 up the scale based on my other vehicles.

What are you guys experiencing?
 
  #15  
Old 11-07-2014, 05:57 PM
MM3846's Avatar
Winching
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: LI, NY
Posts: 619
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mark G
Hey, I'm just curious if other people's gauges display 'roughly' correctly, or if the needle is off? On mine, the vehicle temp is correct but the needle sits about 1/2 way up the scale when warm. It would seem to me that it would be more correct if it were at about 2/3 to 3/4 up the scale based on my other vehicles.

What are you guys experiencing?
the factory gauge is useless. you have a 98, get a scan gauge or an OBDII bluetooth module and use your phone to know for sure. i have a new sender and gauge wired in on my truck. when my gauge gets to "normal" first thing in the morning, my actual temp is only 140-150F. takes another 5 minutes or so to get up to operating temp.
 
  #16  
Old 11-07-2014, 07:45 PM
EricTyrrell's Avatar
Pro Wrench
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Oregon
Posts: 1,526
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mark G
On mine, the vehicle temp is correct but the needle sits about 1/2 way up the scale when warm.
Yes that's normal. Above half is overheating. It's dumb.
 
  #17  
Old 11-12-2014, 04:17 PM
philwarner's Avatar
Rock Crawling
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: NorthWest Arkansas
Posts: 379
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MM3846
OEM tstat is fully open by 88C/190F.

apparently, UK stats lists temp when fully open, US ones when they start to open. so a stant/motorad/whatever 180F stat is correct for OEM. I'm running a genuine LR 88C one, for no reason other than to keep it working as it was designed (and it was only 6 or 7 bucks). it's been cooler now since summer is over, but i've yet to see anything above 188-190F according to my gauge.
Testing the new 180 T-stat in a pan on the stove it appeared to start opening at 184 F and was fully open at 195 F, but I was using a non-contact thermometer which may have thrown it off a bit. When installed, the temp on my UG cycles between 179 and 205 F, and the dash gage sits just above the bottom operating range mark.

I saw today that Partsgeek carries a proper 88C T-stat and also the correct metal gasket (like the one that was on mine with the old 195 F T-stat that didn't close all the way). If I ever need to change T-stats again I'll go that route. I just hope 180 is not too low for the bottom of the operating range.

BTW, I was getting 95 to 105 F at the cabin heater vents with the engine warm and the heater ***** to full heat; sound about right? And it still threw codes P1313 and P1314 climbing a steep hill; guess cleaning the throttle body, MAF, and plenum connections and hoses is next on the list.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Savannah Buzz
Discovery I
2
04-15-2012 02:17 PM
hhalimi
Discovery II
1
04-10-2012 04:45 AM
Joseph David
General Range Rover Discussion - Archived
7
03-14-2011 04:04 AM
Darover
Discovery II
16
08-28-2007 03:01 PM
Max_A6
LR3
0
05-30-2007 02:42 PM



Quick Reply: 98 not getting warm enough



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:17 AM.