Any one want to convince me not to get 245/75/16 Definity MT's
#41
03-27-2012, 10:44 AM
I like the 265's, just due to the fact I will be mostly on the freeway. The trails to our property isnt that extreme, but I do want to play in the mud occasionally. Airing up the tires will help with MPG's on the freeway. Plus, the bigger tires will look better on the new wheels, with that offset. There will be trimming, definetely.
#42
03-27-2012, 10:47 AM
#44
03-27-2012, 10:59 AM
Winching
Lot to think about here but reality is I don't do any offroading and probably woudn't do much unless I got another truck as DD. Sand capability is a plus. Rocky roads and the occasional ditch is good too.
Don't want to mess with gears. Prefer not to cut or do brake lines but I could for the right reasons.
Really, I'm going to go for these Definity's as any other tire is going to cost me hundreds more. I may do a last minute take it or leave it at Firestone or BFG but they usually leave it on those offers. There's no chance for shipping anything but if you ask to one more time Wheel, I'll call.
Still thinking. Lot's of good points and surely learning. Thanks.
Don't want to mess with gears. Prefer not to cut or do brake lines but I could for the right reasons.
Really, I'm going to go for these Definity's as any other tire is going to cost me hundreds more. I may do a last minute take it or leave it at Firestone or BFG but they usually leave it on those offers. There's no chance for shipping anything but if you ask to one more time Wheel, I'll call.
Still thinking. Lot's of good points and surely learning. Thanks.
Don't worry about brake lines, I'm not sure where you got that idea but I've had 265/75s and 235/85s with stock brake lines and no issues.
If you do get 32s of either flavor (235 or 265) bring tin snips, vice grips, a sharpie and a ruler in case you have to do some trimming and bending. You'll snag your body work the first time you go over some major bumps. But you should be okay on the street.
EDIT, sorry Chris-Bob, just noticed that our posts crossed.
Last edited by Mountain Goat; 03-27-2012 at 11:02 AM.
#45
03-27-2012, 11:09 AM
Recovery Vehicle
Yeah it's somewhat of a regional thing for sure. I've never wheeled in PA. All I'm getting at is I've never seen a 265 go where a 235 can't with otherwise identical rigs. I'm guessing there may be a situation out there somewhere where that would be true though. A lot of people here run wide tires for the same reasons you are stating, and joke about my "pizza cutters" but I must say it hasn't hurt me on the trails.
There is a good chance that the mud in your area is sticky enough that all that extra floatation is needed. Then again, look at what they used for the Camel Trophy.
Oh and the balloon tires are on the two ****** Jeeps in my sig pic. They are geared so low they can't go above 50. Now that I think about it the fact I could pass them on the dunes must be a 4-cyllinder and shorter wheelbase thing. They aren't that slow, they're just build more for rocks than anything...
There is a good chance that the mud in your area is sticky enough that all that extra floatation is needed. Then again, look at what they used for the Camel Trophy.
Oh and the balloon tires are on the two ****** Jeeps in my sig pic. They are geared so low they can't go above 50. Now that I think about it the fact I could pass them on the dunes must be a 4-cyllinder and shorter wheelbase thing. They aren't that slow, they're just build more for rocks than anything...
You will have no problem driving home with a 265/75 as long as you have 2" lift. Do not try articulate the truck as the tires will not stuff in the rear wheel well and bend the rear quarter panel. I call this "the camel bend"
#46
03-27-2012, 11:12 AM
#47
03-27-2012, 12:04 PM
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Slang, I feel you completely, I too am try to achieve the most all around with the least outlay of cash and additional work. I would price the 235/85 and compare them to the Definity.
I had a 67 Chevy window van with a 283 in between the front seats. I put some 15 inch MT's on the back of it and could power slide thru alomost anything. But Mud tires will dig really bad in sand from my experiences.
In sand I think the wider flotation tires are better than GraveDiggers that put you bottomed out on the frame.
I agree with avoiding a gearing change also for your needs as well as mine.
Did you plan on new wheels? The stock ones are only 7 inches wide, I do not know what the biggest is that is safe on them. That would be the llimitations there. But all the website should show what size rim is required.
Did you look at sites like TireKingdom or even Summit Racing or 4WD? You do not want to buy 2 sets because the first ones were not a good choice! What chain store do you have down there. NTB has buy 2 get 2 free!
I had a 67 Chevy window van with a 283 in between the front seats. I put some 15 inch MT's on the back of it and could power slide thru alomost anything. But Mud tires will dig really bad in sand from my experiences.
In sand I think the wider flotation tires are better than GraveDiggers that put you bottomed out on the frame.
I agree with avoiding a gearing change also for your needs as well as mine.
Did you plan on new wheels? The stock ones are only 7 inches wide, I do not know what the biggest is that is safe on them. That would be the llimitations there. But all the website should show what size rim is required.
Did you look at sites like TireKingdom or even Summit Racing or 4WD? You do not want to buy 2 sets because the first ones were not a good choice! What chain store do you have down there. NTB has buy 2 get 2 free!
Last edited by Danny Lee 97 Disco; 03-27-2012 at 12:07 PM.
#49
03-27-2012, 12:33 PM
Danny...you've had a nice assortment of vehicles for sure. Very diverse.
I'm keeping these wheels, most likely painting them and I'm nearing the end of my mods....I think. If I ever get another daily driver I can consider going full boar on this one. Until then...we're almost done except for the little stuff....for now...I think.
I have the usual Autozone/Advance, PEP Boys here. The PEP Boys deal is too good and let's me be impractical on MT's as long as they are the Definity's. They are a bit like wearing K-Mart sneakers but the black walls with a little mud and I can deal with that....especially since I'm not an offroader yet. I hear ya' wheelgarage on the name and all.
I looked a lots of sites and ya just can't ship tires to PR without getting killed. Tired of looking and comparing.
I was going to wait until I finished all the body work both so I didn't have to worry about messing up the tires and as a motivator but I think it's just time to layout the cash and up my ride.
I'm keeping these wheels, most likely painting them and I'm nearing the end of my mods....I think. If I ever get another daily driver I can consider going full boar on this one. Until then...we're almost done except for the little stuff....for now...I think.
I have the usual Autozone/Advance, PEP Boys here. The PEP Boys deal is too good and let's me be impractical on MT's as long as they are the Definity's. They are a bit like wearing K-Mart sneakers but the black walls with a little mud and I can deal with that....especially since I'm not an offroader yet. I hear ya' wheelgarage on the name and all.
I looked a lots of sites and ya just can't ship tires to PR without getting killed. Tired of looking and comparing.
I was going to wait until I finished all the body work both so I didn't have to worry about messing up the tires and as a motivator but I think it's just time to layout the cash and up my ride.
#50
03-27-2012, 12:38 PM
Winching
Land Rover Discovery at St. Anthony Sand Dunes - YouTube
But I agree, A/Ts will dig a bit less. If I were building a desert-only truck I'd stick with BFG TA/KOs. 215 would perhaps be too narrow for sand, but anything 235 and up is fine IMO.