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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 12:19 PM
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1997 Discovery 1.
Not wanting to relive what happened here, but one of kids took the rover off roading and ended up hitting a "speed bump" at a fairly high rate of speed.
Initial damage report:
1) 4 flats (rears were able to hold air)
2) front 2 tires completely blown
3) front driver side rim busted
4) driver side head light hanging off top right swivel mount
5) Tie Rod and steering damper destroyed (Tie rod was bent like a U shape)

Repairs competed (from his pocketbook)
1) New Rim off ebay (170 bucks)
2) 4 new P245 70 R 16 (800 bucks)
3) Steering Tie Rod (120 bucks and 2 painful hours trying to remove cotter pins before I finally decided to just break out the impact gun)
4) Blistein Steering Damper ( 120 bucks)
5) Headlight repair remount (Free)

Aside from what is listed above, both externally and underneath, the car looks clean. There are ZERO noticeable impact points. I was expecting to see all kinds of bends and breaks, but not much is standing out. That being said, here are the issues I still need to resolve and I am not sure where to look.
1) Even though it appears that the bulk of the impact was on the front driver side (as that was the rim that broke), the front passenger side has a noticeable 2" sag. Would that be a blown shock? Is it possible to compress a spring to a point that it doesn't return to true? I guess what Im saying is, do I just go ahead and replace the shock and spring, or does this sound like something else to you guys????

2) Front Passenger Side wheel also has a negative camber. I don't know what is considered extreme but its noticeable to the naked eye. Its not as bad as you see on cars that purposefully roll with a negative camber, but you can see it with the naked eye.

3) Lastly, not very scientifically, but I measured each side of the car from center axel front to center axel rear.....there is a difference of approx 1/2 inch - 1 inch with the passenger side being shorter. WIth that information, I inspected the passenger rear radius arm mounting bracket and it appears to be deformed in the direction of the rear axel. It looks like this is welded to the chassis. Is it safe to try and bang this out by hand, or should I have shop weld a new one on?

Anyway, once get rid of this droop on the passenger side, Ill eye ball the alignment and take it in to the shop so a guy that actually knows his a** from a hole in the wall can take a look at it
As always, any help or discussion is appreciated
 

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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 08:50 PM
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If you take the tires off you should be able to inspect the frame right there for any damage. If it looks good, id keep taking things apart. I would certainly replace the Springs, Shocks and Turrets. When the turrets are off check really well for cracks around there. Make sure you dont measure off the front bumper there is considerable slop in the mounting bolts used to adjust it. Not sure what to measure off. Id say if the suspension took all the impact chances are the frame is not bent. A few weeks ago I launched mine by mistake, nothing broke - but it was way milder than what happened to yours. I ended up replacing all the shocks a few weeks later since they were in bad shape anyway and gave her a good inspection around the frame to turret mount joints! Boy that must have been one wild ride!

PS - my 10 year old son was with me, and he wrote this on my white board.


 

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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 09:58 PM
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After an impact like that, I might open up the front hubs to check for damage. The PO of my 96 ran into a snow bank and bent some stuff, and the swivel joint bearings needed repair, as I found out later.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2022 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by avongil
If you take the tires off you should be able to inspect the frame right there for any damage. If it looks good, id keep taking things apart. I would certainly replace the Springs, Shocks and Turrets. When the turrets are off check really well for cracks around there. Make sure you dont measure off the front bumper there is considerable slop in the mounting bolts used to adjust it. Not sure what to measure off. Id say if the suspension took all the impact chances are the frame is not bent. A few weeks ago I launched mine by mistake, nothing broke - but it was way milder than what happened to yours. I ended up replacing all the shocks a few weeks later since they were in bad shape anyway and gave her a good inspection around the frame to turret mount joints! Boy that must have been one wild ride!

PS - my 10 year old son was with me, and he wrote this on my white board.
Thanks for the reply. Got super busy after posting this and am just getting back to till now. Awesome pic from your kid! as a side note, I got the same dry erase board with the same magnets . As for the rover, im at a stand still. I dont want to dump a bunch of money into it without knowing whats broken but Im thinking that you are right...at the very least I should replace the shocks, springs and turrets and then go from there.
 
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