How do I remove roof bars?
#21
02-07-2012 | 08:50 AM
Pro Wrench
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From: San Juan, Puerto Rico
I just replaced my headliner this weekend and had absolutely zero experience with any sort of upholstery.
I have a '98 rover disco that was recently given to me by a family member who just never used it. (I'll only even use it when camping/going to the mountains/picking up boxes that wont fit in my lexus) The car only has 78,000 miles on it, but it's been sitting for a long time so there are some cosmetic issues with it... like the sagging headliner.
I ordered the black material from headlinerexpress. It arrived within a week of ordering it since I liked the black/tan contrast that I saw in photos. Removing the headliner was honestly very easy. All in all, that part took me maybe 20 minutes taking my time to make sure that I got all of the screws properly and placed in an area where I wouldn't lose anything.
After it was out of the car, I used a wire brush to get all the excess glue off. This part, honestly, sucks. It took about 30-40 minutes to get it all off and made a complete mess.
I used the 3M Hi-90 adhesive. sprayed it on 1/2 the fiberglass and on the cloth i was going to lay down. Let it sit for a minute or two before applying it. It wasn't as easy as the pictures made it look >.> . The corners were difficult (remember to stretch it sideways so there is no crease in the front corner) and there are a lot of areas where you really have to stretch it (sunroofs). I made a few mistakes when doing it, but fortunately most of them are in areas that are hard to see or covered by interior trim. I'd say I'm about 90% happy with the job that I did, but it's infinitely better than the sagging headliner and it's not bad for a regular guy's first attempt.
The entire process took me about 6 hours.
While I was up there I was sure to check out the sunroof drain pipes and everything. Fortunately mine looked seriously brand new, so no need to repair/replace them.
Here is the obligitory pic of my finished product:
I have a '98 rover disco that was recently given to me by a family member who just never used it. (I'll only even use it when camping/going to the mountains/picking up boxes that wont fit in my lexus) The car only has 78,000 miles on it, but it's been sitting for a long time so there are some cosmetic issues with it... like the sagging headliner.
I ordered the black material from headlinerexpress. It arrived within a week of ordering it since I liked the black/tan contrast that I saw in photos. Removing the headliner was honestly very easy. All in all, that part took me maybe 20 minutes taking my time to make sure that I got all of the screws properly and placed in an area where I wouldn't lose anything.
After it was out of the car, I used a wire brush to get all the excess glue off. This part, honestly, sucks. It took about 30-40 minutes to get it all off and made a complete mess.
I used the 3M Hi-90 adhesive. sprayed it on 1/2 the fiberglass and on the cloth i was going to lay down. Let it sit for a minute or two before applying it. It wasn't as easy as the pictures made it look >.> . The corners were difficult (remember to stretch it sideways so there is no crease in the front corner) and there are a lot of areas where you really have to stretch it (sunroofs). I made a few mistakes when doing it, but fortunately most of them are in areas that are hard to see or covered by interior trim. I'd say I'm about 90% happy with the job that I did, but it's infinitely better than the sagging headliner and it's not bad for a regular guy's first attempt.
The entire process took me about 6 hours.
While I was up there I was sure to check out the sunroof drain pipes and everything. Fortunately mine looked seriously brand new, so no need to repair/replace them.
Here is the obligitory pic of my finished product:
the top line along the windscreen looks a little loose. is that just the pic or was it a problem area?
#22
02-07-2012 | 01:56 PM
2nd Gear
Joined: Jan 2012
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It's not loose. We just decided to do the front first (which in hindsight wasn't a great idea) so there are some slight wrinkles there from when we were trying to figure out how to do those corners. By the time we figured it out and got the corners looking nice, the glue had dried too much to fix it all. After that, we had pretty much figured the rest out. It's the only true problem area. (we had some glue leak through in other areas making a light white mess, but fortunately those were all covered up by body panels)
As far as sagging, I actually have the material glued up an around about an inch in.. so if it sags there again, it'd be an act of god.
Like I said, I'm just a regular guy, certainly not a professional, so I posted this to kind of prove that it doesn't take the master mechanics (what it feels like) on these forums to do these kinds of things.
Other things i've done from looking over these forums:
- Removed and soldered the ECU to fix the rear window motors (and it also fixed the passenger power seat motor). It was a BISH to get out and I cut myself doing so, but overall it was an easy fix.
- The rear driver window motor worked now, but it still wasn't going up or down. So I took off the door trim and followed a guide on here to remove the motor/regulator and fix it with a few washers I bought for 98 cents at home depot. Works like a charm now.
- Other various fixes around by replacing small body pieces.
Next weekend is 'fluid weekend' where i try to tackle the steps in the '60k service' guide on this site.
#24
08-26-2014 | 09:35 AM
Winching
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 651
Likes: 23
From: West Palm Beach, FL
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