Idle surge when cold
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I checked for continuity yesterday night and everything is fine;
-Fuel temp to ECM
-Coolant temp to ECM
-IAT to ECM
-MAF to ECM
-TPS to ECM
-IAC to ECM
The possibilities are definitely narrowing. Next step is to check the camshaft and crankshaft sensors, and check continuity between them and the ECM. Anyone has the bench test values I should get from those sensors?
-Fuel temp to ECM
-Coolant temp to ECM
-IAT to ECM
-MAF to ECM
-TPS to ECM
-IAC to ECM
The possibilities are definitely narrowing. Next step is to check the camshaft and crankshaft sensors, and check continuity between them and the ECM. Anyone has the bench test values I should get from those sensors?
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New development. It will give you all something to sleep on. The truck sat in a heated garage for the night, and when I started it, it did exactly the same as the hot start thing, it was running like ****, and I had to give it some throttle to keep it running, until it managed to idle by itself, and there was a strong exhaust smell, which indicates , I think, over fueling.
As mentioned in my previous post, continuity has been checked. I spent the whole evening yesterday night, checking the wire harness, cleaning connectors and putting a dab of dielectric grease on cleaned connectors.
I think the issue is bigger than it appeared, basically the truck starts because it's -10*C, otherwise it wouldn't. Any ideas? I found out the camshaft position sensor is impossible to test, and I haven't found values for the crankshaft position sensor. I don't want to throw parts at it until it works.
As mentioned in my previous post, continuity has been checked. I spent the whole evening yesterday night, checking the wire harness, cleaning connectors and putting a dab of dielectric grease on cleaned connectors.
I think the issue is bigger than it appeared, basically the truck starts because it's -10*C, otherwise it wouldn't. Any ideas? I found out the camshaft position sensor is impossible to test, and I haven't found values for the crankshaft position sensor. I don't want to throw parts at it until it works.
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the only sensor (engine management related, not talking security stuff here) which can cause a NO start is the CPS.
A failure or errant signal from the ECT, MAF, IATS, FTS or O2's will simply cause the ECM to react by going into one of a few preprogrammed "limp modes"... it may run like crap but not fail to run.
A good way to test the MAF while it is in place and with the engine running is to slightly modify the probes on your Multi meter. If you can affix a couple alligator clips to the ends of the two probes then place a pin, needle or otherwise small a pointy thing into the "mouth" of each clip. Find which wires are the signal wires in the plug to the MAF and carefully and gently probe the wires... through the insulation and if you go all the way through that is fine... so long as you are making an electrical contact. Then as you rev the engine you'll be able to measure the voltage generated by the MAF as air passes through. I do this all the time...
MAKE SURE THEY DO NOT TOUCH EACH OTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A failure or errant signal from the ECT, MAF, IATS, FTS or O2's will simply cause the ECM to react by going into one of a few preprogrammed "limp modes"... it may run like crap but not fail to run.
A good way to test the MAF while it is in place and with the engine running is to slightly modify the probes on your Multi meter. If you can affix a couple alligator clips to the ends of the two probes then place a pin, needle or otherwise small a pointy thing into the "mouth" of each clip. Find which wires are the signal wires in the plug to the MAF and carefully and gently probe the wires... through the insulation and if you go all the way through that is fine... so long as you are making an electrical contact. Then as you rev the engine you'll be able to measure the voltage generated by the MAF as air passes through. I do this all the time...
MAKE SURE THEY DO NOT TOUCH EACH OTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last edited by Cosmic88; 03-01-2011 at 01:36 PM.
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If I recall corretly the only sensor (engine management related, not talking security stuff here) which can cause a NO start is the CPS.
A failure of errant signal from the ECT, MAF, IATS, FTS or O2's will simply cause the ECM to react by going into one of a few preprogrammed "limp modes"... it may run like crap but not fail to run.
A failure of errant signal from the ECT, MAF, IATS, FTS or O2's will simply cause the ECM to react by going into one of a few preprogrammed "limp modes"... it may run like crap but not fail to run.
Last edited by Chris-bob; 03-01-2011 at 02:01 PM.