Lift kit for sale to make my tires fit?
#31
04-16-2012 | 11:52 AM
TReK
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From: Ketchikan, Alaska, USA
Why can't we all have $20k to blow on our rovers? Then we could all just shut up and buy whatever we wanted and if we find a flaw in our parts after adding other stuff we would just buy what we need. The problem is we don't have that kind of cash laying around (well most of us). So we have to plan ahead, what are we using it for? What is going to be on my vehicle? Based on those needs you buy your parts.
#32
04-16-2012 | 11:54 AM
TReK
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#33
04-16-2012 | 12:00 PM
Camel Trophy
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From: Lake Villa, IL
I have been wheeling since the late 1960's and learned along time ago, you get what you pay for. In my case I always played hard and learned quickly the benefit of having good quality, well tested products, to give you the most off the road without failures.
The bulk of the T.F. lifts are sold, not because of their quality but the cheap price which does not work for me when I recommend a product, I recommend them based on their quality and track record.
This last week, there were 4 different threads regarding people replacing and or up grading from T.F's to OME's on RTE suspension, that tells me that not all people have been pleased with their cost savings.
The bulk of the T.F. lifts are sold, not because of their quality but the cheap price which does not work for me when I recommend a product, I recommend them based on their quality and track record.
This last week, there were 4 different threads regarding people replacing and or up grading from T.F's to OME's on RTE suspension, that tells me that not all people have been pleased with their cost savings.
Just because a new product is priced less than an existing product does not necessarily mean the new product is junk. The TF springs look great. Great finish and appear to be very stout. Their shocks seem OK, too. At least as good as an equivelant OME Nitro shock. Only the TF ones give MUCH better travel.
And Yes, RTE only offers Heavy Duty springs. So if you want any other spring rate you'll have to look at OME, TF, or whatever else there is.
#34
04-16-2012 | 12:00 PM
I'm just saying if all you want to do is make those tires fit, go for the TF because it's a cheap and "good" (price to quality ratio) brand. If you want the best of the best go for OME, RTE, or those crazy expensive kits from Lucky8. You get what you pay for is like a double edged sword. Don't EXPECT the $400 parts to act like the $1000 ones. But IF they do, then congrats.
#35
04-16-2012 | 12:00 PM
Recovery Vehicle
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From: mini soda
I honestly cant remember the brand. It may not have been referenced because I think the focus of topic was about style rather than brand.
#36
04-16-2012 | 12:08 PM
Recovery Vehicle
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From: Ankeny IA
I have been wheeling since the late 1960's and learned along time ago, you get what you pay for. In my case I always played hard and learned quickly the benefit of having good quality, well tested products, to give you the most off the road without failures.
The bulk of the T.F. lifts are sold, not because of their quality but the cheap price which does not work for me when I recommend a product, I recommend them based on their quality and track record.
This last week, there were 4 different threads regarding people replacing and or up grading from T.F's to OME's on RTE suspension, that tells me that not all people have been pleased with their cost savings.
The bulk of the T.F. lifts are sold, not because of their quality but the cheap price which does not work for me when I recommend a product, I recommend them based on their quality and track record.
This last week, there were 4 different threads regarding people replacing and or up grading from T.F's to OME's on RTE suspension, that tells me that not all people have been pleased with their cost savings.
With that said - I didnt see the threads about people switching away from TF kits, maybe they were in the D2 section? I'd be curious as to what they werent happy with. A lot of guys I wheel with have TF kits no problem, Hilltopper has had his kit for a couple years and has put some miles off road on it and still loves it. I have TF springs although they are new I havent had any issues.
I guess yes you do get what you pay for but TF springs are damn near identical to RTE springs as far as quality. Yes OME stuff has been known as "the best" for some time now but I think Terrafirmas shocks as damn near just as good and far better than Pro-Comps
#37
04-16-2012 | 12:10 PM
Recovery Vehicle
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From: Ankeny IA
All I can say to that is pics or it didnt happen. I have an OME with a snapped pin on the porch if I get around to it I'll take a pic for you guys.
#38
04-16-2012 | 12:13 PM
Recovery Vehicle
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From: Ankeny IA
If it is such a bad design on LRs part, why are the stock pins on my D1 not broken at 89k miles(as far as I can tell, they are original)? If there is a known weakness, then it is the responsibility of the aftermarket to remedy so their goods work, not to blame design flaws on the vehicle. They should engineer around design flaws, making their product a hands-down win, otherwise there is no reason to go that route. The issue is not the pin, but in the usage of the vehicle.
And pin-style shocks suck...? How do they ride any different than any other style shock? Is the valving different? I am going to assume you meant to say you think the design is flawed and other styles are better suited, or that they are a more difficult to replace style shock.
Besides, vacuums suck, shocks blow.
And pin-style shocks suck...? How do they ride any different than any other style shock? Is the valving different? I am going to assume you meant to say you think the design is flawed and other styles are better suited, or that they are a more difficult to replace style shock.
Besides, vacuums suck, shocks blow.
People who are breaking their shocks are breaking them off road and wheeling them hard. Nobody would question OME or TF kits strength if they just put them on and drove them to the mall.
Pin style shocks are weaker than loop style shocks because of the angle that can work at and how they are mounted.
#39
04-16-2012 | 12:36 PM
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From: Ketchikan, Alaska, USA
People who are breaking their shocks are breaking them off road and wheeling them hard. Nobody would question OME or TF kits strength if they just put them on and drove them to the mall.
Pin style shocks are weaker than loop style shocks because of the angle that can work at and how they are mounted.
Pin style shocks are weaker than loop style shocks because of the angle that can work at and how they are mounted.
#40
04-16-2012 | 01:22 PM