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#32
Fixed it for you. Although I disagree with your original premise. (I've never tried 245s but my 265s barely ever rub)
Last edited by Mountain Goat; 05-11-2011 at 02:56 PM.
#33
Tweak, I saw your pics and stand corrected. I thought you meant a full camel cut. That is the exact same spot I have occasionally snagged with my 265s. Surprised that it would catch on a 245. I have thought of cutting that part back a few inches and making a rocker panel to conceal the cut part, but have still rarely has issues.
Is your sway bar off? That may be the difference. Although I thought AKdisco said he can stuff his 245s without contact, and his swaybar is even off.
Is your sway bar off? That may be the difference. Although I thought AKdisco said he can stuff his 245s without contact, and his swaybar is even off.
Last edited by Mountain Goat; 05-11-2011 at 03:22 PM.
#34
This is dialogue I was looking for...
GOAT, to answer your question why A/T and not M/T...well, as much as I'd like to go off-road once a week, I just don't, and maybe never will. (I just bit my tongue and threw-up...I will, I will!)
I guess I'm worried about road noise for some reason, and I don't know why. That's why I wanted to hear opinions and be asked questions, so I can really think it over for my situation. I will be driving an extra 40 miles a week or so since i'll be working out of an office a couple days a week soon. But i'm not sure that should/would keep me from an M/T either.
It's still my daily driver, so I use it for errands and misc. stuff. But I am really considering M/T's now. Anyone got any feedback about M/T's on road and wearing quickly?
I guess I'm worried about road noise for some reason, and I don't know why. That's why I wanted to hear opinions and be asked questions, so I can really think it over for my situation. I will be driving an extra 40 miles a week or so since i'll be working out of an office a couple days a week soon. But i'm not sure that should/would keep me from an M/T either.
It's still my daily driver, so I use it for errands and misc. stuff. But I am really considering M/T's now. Anyone got any feedback about M/T's on road and wearing quickly?
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Speaking of which, why do you need A/T tires? Why not muds? A/Ts do fine everywhere but mud, but with your open diffs an aggressive tread is sometimes better. My last trip, which was meant as a basic trail ride, I ended up going through 2' deep water, mud, slush, and snow, and I am sure glad I had my mud terrains on or I wouldn't have made it through. In fact I have practically never had an off-road situation that made me wish I didn't have muds (except maybe when they start throwing gravel and my truck, lol). It sounds to me like you are only doing 20/miles per week on pavement, and are concerned about off-road performance, why limit yourself to A/T? A 31" mud will outperform a 32" A/T in terms of traction, and you can quit worrying about rubbing. I love the look of 32s, but unless you are doing rocks/deep ruts differential clearance may be adequate with 31s.
#36
There is a huge difference in the off road capabilities in A/T and M/T tread design. That is why they sell both. Depending on what you plan on being your primary off-road course will dictate which tread design will best suit you. For me, I would need an A/T. A M/T would be a waste of tire for the logging roads I go on(no mud at all). But for AKDisco, he has lots of mud available to him, a M/T would be better IF he used the Disco in the mud. But if he only used it for established logging roads and rocks, an A/T might be better. Just my $.0036564. FWIW, I spent a few years in the tire industry and have a brother that does tire wholesaling.(not that it makes me an expert, cause it doesn't)
Even as such, the Rover handles nearly as well on ice - and we have a lot of it here - with M/Ts as my Sentra does with studded snow tires, and pavement is a necessary evil. In the rest of the situations they actually seem to have an advantage. They keep me moving forward nearly 100% of the time, whereas I felt wheelspin all the time with the A/Ts. The only way I would go back to A/Ts is if I had to routinely drive this rig on the highway for hours at a time, but still wanted better off-road traction than street tires.
To me, it seems they sell A/Ts because they are cheaper than M/Ts, make less road noise, and have slightly longer tread-life.
Addressing those concerns, I would say 1) you get what you pay for, 2) have them balanced by a good shop, rotate them every 5k miles or less, and I can hardly hear it with my windows closed. I've never been in a Rover without muds, but the wind noise is far more noticeable to me than road noise. I could still have a comfortable phone conversation at 70-80 MPH if I ever drove it that fast, which I rarely do, and 3) expect around 30 to 40k miles out of a set. Or sell them after 20k for at least half of what you paid, and keep a deep tread.
Just my two bits. A/Ts on a Rover will still get you darn near anywhere, and there's certainly a large degree of preference here as well. I'm just trying to milk the most traction out of my open diffs that I can. I think M/Ts don't need to be sacrosanct though, I'd say everyone should try them at least once.
Last edited by Mountain Goat; 05-12-2011 at 12:35 AM.
#39
#40
Oh, I initially though my 265s did not rub, because I made it through some big rocks without snagging, but after some faster/more aggressive trail riding I learned better. I am still relatively new the this rig, lol.
Last edited by Mountain Goat; 05-11-2011 at 08:13 PM.