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Old 12-13-2010, 12:07 AM
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I just bought these for 34 bucks Ford Motorsport 19lb/hr...cleaned and tested :0. My landy is already butta smooth at idle, upgrading to these 4 hole injectors will be nice...atomizing the fuel even better..maybe gain a couple of mpg.

Now just FYI, my when I had my 4.6, i do remember the injectors making a more clicking sound than others

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...4#ht_500wt_698

just search ford injectors on ebay
These will fit a 95 Disco I? Just wondering, not planning on getting them soon since I have some other things to do, but looking at possible things to do to better the vehicle.
 
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Old 12-13-2010, 06:57 AM
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I have to admit, I'm really interested into how these work on the 96. Thank you for that video it was really good and explained a lot. I'm fairly new to messing with injectors... Ok totally new... I'm a carb+blower type person. I can clearly see from the that video that even the injector set I just bought have a better pattern etc than the lucas. The Gen 3 seem to have a better atomization but I'm doubting a person would see much a difference between the 2 fords on a stock engine. If the engine was tuned up,had a nice cam better pistons and head work, I could see wanting to goto the gen 3.

I'm really leery of building up a disco engine, not for the engine but for the running gear. You can do some amazing stuff to the 215 but, I have a feeling it would simply grenade everything behind it pretty quickly. The upgrades I have done are more ascetics than performance, hell, 10 bucks says the Stock chipped ECU negates any actual performance increase in it's strive to return the engine to "normal"

The only real mod difference I would want to do with the current engine would be a new ECU and maybe a supercharger kit But your spending so much much time and money for a 25-30% increase in power that you might as well build up a bigger stronger engine from the start or just drop a 4.6 in and be done... Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's how I see it from all my reading. If I toast the current motor, I'm seriously looking at putting an MB Diesel in it's place over the 4.6, but that's a bridge I'll cross when I get there.
 
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id love to get a diesel...but you can make the 4.0 a stout engine...this is def a step in the right direction.

Ive also deleted my pcv so I dont get oil mists inside my intake tract and have too much carbon build up either. Since the delete it starts amazing and idles perfect...i mean perfect...no hiccups or anything...i have 4ft of fuel line going from the engine to behind the headlight (there is an opening there) and i have a filter on it to make sure no grim gets inside that line...eventhough it does not matter since its just a dump line..The pcv in our landy are the worst design ever.


but for a 95 i think you need a different injectors since its odb1
 

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After reading through the entire thread, admittedly not every word, I did not see anywhere that you tested the temp sensors for proper resistance ... Fuel temp and coolant temp sensors WILL cause the ecm to run rich if they are bad or out of range. Same with the MAF and its sensor voltage.
 
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I agree with Cosmic....you need a little more data ( maybe LIVE data) to go on before you start throwing parts at her.
 
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After reading through the entire thread, admittedly not every word, I did not see anywhere that you tested the temp sensors for proper resistance ... Fuel temp and coolant temp sensors WILL cause the ecm to run rich if they are bad or out of range. Same with the MAF and its sensor voltage.
This is why I want to get it on the computer. If I don't it's just tossing parts on in a wild guess. Lot's of things can make it run rich, bad O2's, stuck injectors, bad maf, bad temp sensors, and on and on... I would think that the test book could at least point me in the right direction and save money in the long run.
 
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If you have a simple multimeter you can do all of it yourself. IF you are getting the hook up as a hook up (i.e. free or for a few beers to the owner of that testbook) then go for it.

If you don't have a multimeter then grab one. they will run you between $10 and $80 depending on how much you need to test.

One that measures ohm's, a/c volts and d/c volts is perfect for your needs and will be cheap.

http://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=15707471

this is a must have item.....
 

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Honesty, I found mine in a gas station on the way to Florida for a student conference with my church. It was on the ground and near the trash can. The two pens were destroyed just about but it still turned on. Took it home, replaced the pens, "new" to me multimeter
 
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Originally Posted by Cosmic88
If you have a simple multimeter you can do all of it yourself. IF you are getting the hook up as a hook up (i.e. free or for a few beers to the owner of that testbook) then go for it.

If you don't have a multimeter then grab one. they will run you between $10 and $80 depending on how much you need to test.

One that measures ohm's, a/c volts and d/c volts is perfect for your needs and will be cheap.

http://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=15707471

this is a must have item.....
I have one, but I'm not really sure how to use it, other than check for continuity.
 
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I bought mine at Lowe's for 30 bucks for a rugged GreenLee.

You primarily would be using the DC Volts to measure the outputs of the various sensors.
 


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