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Old 04-03-2012 | 06:53 PM
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This guy's problem sounds like mine. What/where is the transmission valve box? Or does this sound more like a kickdown problem...
 
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Old 04-04-2012 | 07:02 AM
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My experiece is that almost none of you guys knows what they are talking about.

I was an automatic transmission rebuilder for 14 years. Certs include ASE, ATRA, ATSG.

I have to laugh when I read what you guys wrote here for reasons not to change the fluid. They aren't even close to the top of the list of ridiculous claims I have heard over the years, but they are amusing.
 
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Old 04-04-2012 | 07:10 AM
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Hope you're better with trucks than you are with your grammar, Higgs.

Some of us are lucky in love and some of us are lucky in wrenching. Those that have other skills come to guys like you for help. Hopefully, we do it with thanks, and acknowledgement of your skills and appreciation of you help.

Now why don't you go and make a sticky about this so I can do this work myself.

Peas.
 
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Old 04-04-2012 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
My experiece is that almost none of you guys knows what they are talking about.

I was an automatic transmission rebuilder for 14 years. Certs include ASE, ATRA, ATSG.

I have to laugh when I read what you guys wrote here for reasons not to change the fluid. They aren't even close to the top of the list of ridiculous claims I have heard over the years, but they are amusing.
^^^^^^DRUMROLL.... ok so how bout some useful info instead of calling us morons?^^^ please?
 
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Old 04-04-2012 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
My experiece is that almost none of you guys knows what they are talking about.

I was an automatic transmission rebuilder for 14 years. Certs include ASE, ATRA, ATSG.

I have to laugh when I read what you guys wrote here for reasons not to change the fluid. They aren't even close to the top of the list of ridiculous claims I have heard over the years, but they are amusing.
sweet. Im going off of what I have heard in the past and what rover tech have told me.

Although I am extremely impressed by all yout tranny certs I think I'd rather listen to rover techs that have been doing it for longer and have delt with the issues first hand.


Here's the answer for you

I have a 4 speed ZF Auto and it sticks in first gear in the morning or when cold and is reluctant to change up from 1st gear. Once the gearbox has warmed up it shifts normally. Why? The governor valve is sticking, which can be caused by contamination. i.e. clutch plates or other parts disintegrating. The fine debris finds its way past the filter and tends to accumulate in the governor, causing it to stick. A temporary solution is to remove and clean the governor. The problem will often recur as debris from damaged parts continues to build up in the governor. If the problem continues after cleaning the governor then it may be necessary it replace your Autobox.
We have noticed many customers reporting this fault starting a few days after an oil and filter change and after researching this using our experience and the expertise of others in the trade we have come to the conclusion that as ATF oil is a detergent type oil, when the oil is changed this will dislodge and stir up settled debris in the autobox which in turn jams the governor valve. In light of this although it sounds controversial it is debateable if changing the oil and filter is a good idea, some say if the box it going to fail it will fail if the oil is good or bad and their advice is leave it alone. I am still undecided but the truth is I get a lot of calls from customers thinking they are looking after the autobox by servicing it and a few days later this fault occurs.

And my transmission is fine anyways so I figure if it aint broke, dont try to fix it. Plus dropping a cross member? screw that! Most work I've done to it is a drain and refill.
 

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Old 04-04-2012 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
My experiece is that almost none of you guys knows what they are talking about.

I was an automatic transmission rebuilder for 14 years. Certs include ASE, ATRA, ATSG.

I have to laugh when I read what you guys wrote here for reasons not to change the fluid. They aren't even close to the top of the list of ridiculous claims I have heard over the years, but they are amusing.
Enlighten them, don't criticize.

I changed my fluid and filter just because I wanted to know when it was done last. PO gave me no information on the vehicle. I am about to do it again as I have to replace my kick down cable.
 
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Old 04-04-2012 | 09:10 AM
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It makes sense that if the trans is serviced regularly it will not have a chance to accumulate debris and so further regular services would be an excellent practice. However, the question is, if services are neglected and it does accumulate debris then what is best? This seems similar to the question of seafoaming dirty engines.

That crossmember is fun to remove. I pounded on it with a rubber mallet for quite a while before it came off. I used a jack to press it back up between the frame.
 
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Old 04-04-2012 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by filbs
more than likely.. NOTED: no advice from cashiers at auto store..

Unless she is really cute, then ask her to come outside and ASSisst you with the fluids. Like some of the really good ads you see like for Frank's Auto Mart where the hottie in Daisy Dukes hikes it up over the engine while you stand back and drool.

And the other fellow that started the thread, are you even out of high school yet? Grow up, there's a special link for you in my signature, hope you enjoy the girl on the ukelele.

May your rig fall apart and be stranded deep in the woods next time you go out being stupid! And the Homeland Fuzz interogate you!
 
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Old 04-04-2012 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by luckyd77
And tell me about the people I'm like. You don't know anything about me so until you crawl inside my head or have an actual conversation with me, you can continue to make an *** of yourself.

Well help us out, go out and do it again and be sure someone videos it to post on UTUBE. Bet you can outdo alot of those jerks without even trying.

Some people are true ********, others merely act like one.
 
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Old 04-04-2012 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
My experiece is that almost none of you guys knows what they are talking about.

I was an automatic transmission rebuilder for 14 years. Certs include ASE, ATRA, ATSG.

I have to laugh when I read what you guys wrote here for reasons not to change the fluid. They aren't even close to the top of the list of ridiculous claims I have heard over the years, but they are amusing.
Certs mean nothing. Ask any real mechanic. If you are really that 'informed', then use the forum for what it was designed for...assisting others. As for qualifications, this is the internet. As a member of another forum states regularly, info you receive online is worth what you paid. Nothing.
 


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