Won't start unless solenoid is jumped
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Won't start unless solenoid is jumped
'96 Discovery 1. When I got it, the prior owner had it set up so the ignition switch had to be "on," and then started by a remote starter switch wired to the positive battery terminal. I'd like to use the ignition switch to start it.
From what I can make out on the RAVE diagram, the red/white wire from the ignition switch should be the wire the switch uses to engage the starter. While I don't know what the computer looks at when I try and start it, I figured that if there was 12 volts on the red/white wire when I put the ignition switch to the start position, I could run that to the starter and bypass the computer. When I tried to check it using a bulb-and-ground wire probe, the light in the probe never lit up, but I can hear what sounds like some kind of a pump from the engine area. Seems weird that there's no voltage on the white/red wire, but that somewhere a separate circuit is getting power, and I don't know what that circuit is or what it's energizing.
Anyone know what that pump is, and why I can get that to run, but no voltage on the white/red wire coming from the ignition switch?
From what I can make out on the RAVE diagram, the red/white wire from the ignition switch should be the wire the switch uses to engage the starter. While I don't know what the computer looks at when I try and start it, I figured that if there was 12 volts on the red/white wire when I put the ignition switch to the start position, I could run that to the starter and bypass the computer. When I tried to check it using a bulb-and-ground wire probe, the light in the probe never lit up, but I can hear what sounds like some kind of a pump from the engine area. Seems weird that there's no voltage on the white/red wire, but that somewhere a separate circuit is getting power, and I don't know what that circuit is or what it's energizing.
Anyone know what that pump is, and why I can get that to run, but no voltage on the white/red wire coming from the ignition switch?
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I bought it from a farmer that was going to scrap it, and I paid approx. scrap value for it. It's a nice truck, and my daughter has wanted a Land Rover for a few years, so it was a good deal. Yeah, it has issues, but I'm willing to dig into them.
One problem has been locating the start relay. I can find eBay ads showing a four prong yellow relay, but Google doesn't bring up anything about where on the car the relay is located. Just a ton of people asking where it's at.
One problem has been locating the start relay. I can find eBay ads showing a four prong yellow relay, but Google doesn't bring up anything about where on the car the relay is located. Just a ton of people asking where it's at.
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I'm using the electric manual from Land Rover Manuals. It shows the component identification numbers, but so far I haven't found a location guide in the manual.
Edit: Yes the manual does indeed show the location.It's behind the passenger side kick panel, according to page 51(!) of the component location section. The PDF format is a pain in the posterior, but at least the informations there-and it's free too, so enough of my complaining already.
Edit: Yes the manual does indeed show the location.It's behind the passenger side kick panel, according to page 51(!) of the component location section. The PDF format is a pain in the posterior, but at least the informations there-and it's free too, so enough of my complaining already.
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One big help when you are in that situation is Paul Grant. He will sell you a handfull of good relays salvaged from what he goes thru and most anything else you may need at a good price. His info is in many places on here, like Disco Mike's signature and a few others.
I printed large sections of the RAVE and made up my own reference sets.
Much easier when you are working on it to grab a binder or take a few pages out than to get on the computer and hunt.
Especially true for the electrical data.
I printed large sections of the RAVE and made up my own reference sets.
Much easier when you are working on it to grab a binder or take a few pages out than to get on the computer and hunt.
Especially true for the electrical data.
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