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Old May 26, 2015 | 11:57 AM
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Just failed my Maine State Inspection for vertical wear/play in my front wheels. So on to zee good stuff:

It looks like my swivel pins/bearings are badly worn, but I figured I would ask y'all before I tear into the old girl. I will be researching on my own, but would deeply appreciate any insights and advice you all might have.

  • What parts do I need?
  • What parts/procedures should I consider "while I'm in there"?
  • What should I be careful not to screw up?
  • What special tools should I consider?
I know the right swivel ball is pitted, so it and the associated seals are on the list. My CV joints also click at full steering lock, so if I can afford them , I will be swapping them out too.


Thanks again, as lurking here has been a goldmine already!
 
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Old May 26, 2015 | 05:00 PM
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Take a gander at this page, has all you need to fix em up; RovahFarm for all your new Land Rover Parts and Accessories

Not cheap, for the swivel ***** you can sometimes find decent ones in the bone yard or try one of the breakers that post up on our site.

You'll have to make the tool for setting swivel pin preload, needs a torque wrench on our trucks. Not hard to make with simple hand tools and some scrap 1/4" steel.
 

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Old May 26, 2015 | 06:40 PM
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x2 on Trevor at Rovahfarm
Sounds like it's time for swivel pin kits.

On the swivel *****, if you're not in a hury you can repair them with JB weld and POR15 or epoxy. Land Rover FAQ - Repair & Maintenance - Series - Drivetrain - Swivel Ball Repair

You have to pull the hubs of course so inspect those bearings closely. If you need bearings you can get them locally, Timken SET37, SKF BR37, *** KIT38 or National A-37. I've used all of them and haven't seen any difference so get whatever is cheapest.
Use the Corteco RTC3511 hub seals from Rovahfarm.

You have to break the connection in the brake line so it would be a good time to slot the bracket on the top swivel pin so you don't have to open the hydraulics anymore for jobs like this, or replacing your rotors. Like this: https://landroverforums.com/forum/ge...acement-39705/

This post has a few tips on the hub seal installation; https://landroverforums.com/forum/di...76/#post259503
 
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Old May 26, 2015 | 09:11 PM
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This video was by far the most helpful when I did mine for the first time.
 
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Old May 26, 2015 | 09:45 PM
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I have an extra set of swivel *****. Does anyone know if non ABS and ABS Swivels are the same? Just the pins are different right?
 
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Old May 26, 2015 | 09:58 PM
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Just went through this about a month ago. I added up the parts I figured I would need to replace both ball swivels and a CV joint, came to just under $1,000... I ended up finding a Di land Rover about 50 miles away in a scrap yard with a newer style (Teflon coated) ***** and still was full of oil. I got the complete axle for $200 and they even put it on the trailer for me. The good part about doing this way is you don't have to take the ball apart, just unbolt at the axle tube flange and slide it off, and the replacement one on. no change to bearing preloading. (assuming it is good on the donor axle) Still have to remove the brake calipers and brake lines though.
 
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Old May 26, 2015 | 10:31 PM
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My axle is now torn down. So easy to ship.
 
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Old May 27, 2015 | 02:49 AM
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X2 on the video. but be aware they are doing the non-abs axle

Donor axle with swivel removed

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Old May 27, 2015 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Shiftonthefly1
I have an extra set of swivel *****. Does anyone know if non ABS and ABS Swivels are the same? Just the pins are different right?
The swivel ***** are different. They take different swivel bearings.
 
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Old May 27, 2015 | 10:46 AM
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Thanks for the info!

Looks like buying D1 front axle and rehabbing it would be best, as it keeps me on the road as long as possible. I have a power bleeder, so the brake system isn't spooky. Does anyone have a preload bracket I can buy/rent later this summer? Finally, anyone have an ABS swivel ball they want to part with?

I will keep you all posted and will post pics.

Now the last in a series of dumb questions: Since there is no funky tire wear and no death wobble, is she safe to still drive for the next few weeks?
 

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