4.11 gears
Rock Crawling
Joined: Jun 2012
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From: Cumming Ga
Who want's to push your LR to extreme were it can't get you home is a failed logic.
Some places in Utah and Colorado (BLM or Indian Reservation) if you get stuck because your vehicle did not have the proper equipment (CDL, rear/front lockers, winch etc) the recovery fee's start at $2000 minimum just to get you unstuck. No your AAA membership will not come and get you.
It's better to have the LR well equipped with CDL, locker, recovery equipment etc. for you to have a better chance to get out of a stuck situation. That $2000 minimum recovery fee could have gone towards lockers etc. The old saying is "better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it".
Some places in Utah and Colorado (BLM or Indian Reservation) if you get stuck because your vehicle did not have the proper equipment (CDL, rear/front lockers, winch etc) the recovery fee's start at $2000 minimum just to get you unstuck. No your AAA membership will not come and get you.
It's better to have the LR well equipped with CDL, locker, recovery equipment etc. for you to have a better chance to get out of a stuck situation. That $2000 minimum recovery fee could have gone towards lockers etc. The old saying is "better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it".
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Camel Trophy
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From: Longview, Texas
I'm actually driving up to look at some property now so I'll have a better view of the intended use, first person instead of on a topo and sat map.
Lots of slightly wet dirt roads. Part of the way is the easy portion (I think) of the Kiamichi Trail on the Oklahoma side, a few miles off 259. Part of the way is unmaintained trails to at least one really awesome spot south of the trail; my guess is the trails are meant for trucks pulled by donkeys. I doubt I will be able to find another contender that is accessed via "logging trail" but I will try. If it looks too hairy I'll turn around because all I have is some tools, compressor, 24 extra gallons of gas, CDL wrench (which is good since my three amigos are accompanying), winch, GPS, spare driveshafts steering rod and spare rotoflex, the enduring belief that there will be others there if I get stuck, and I don't know what else. My dog, some cash, and a great equalizer. Wife is staying home. Anyway I'll report back. This is supposed to be a day trip but may stretch.
Lots of slightly wet dirt roads. Part of the way is the easy portion (I think) of the Kiamichi Trail on the Oklahoma side, a few miles off 259. Part of the way is unmaintained trails to at least one really awesome spot south of the trail; my guess is the trails are meant for trucks pulled by donkeys. I doubt I will be able to find another contender that is accessed via "logging trail" but I will try. If it looks too hairy I'll turn around because all I have is some tools, compressor, 24 extra gallons of gas, CDL wrench (which is good since my three amigos are accompanying), winch, GPS, spare driveshafts steering rod and spare rotoflex, the enduring belief that there will be others there if I get stuck, and I don't know what else. My dog, some cash, and a great equalizer. Wife is staying home. Anyway I'll report back. This is supposed to be a day trip but may stretch.
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Camel Trophy
Joined: Nov 2012
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From: Longview, Texas
Well that trip was cut short, but at least I can eliminate a couple of places because it would take a Mars rover to reach them and get back (I turned around, and got to find out the limit of my center of gravity on a side slope) and even the Mars rover doesn't attempt with a trailer, so that's out. Those spots would require a massive build that would negate and even exceed the cost savings of remote property. The rest were on simple, if muddy roads and gentle slopes with a few rocks. I think the worst were maybe ten inches. There were ways around rutted (really, ravined) areas. The only challenge was prevent my paint from getting striped. I didn't need the winch at all but the CDL did make a difference.
I think the 4.11 gears are going to be for on road driveability and trailering only. In 4 low I never felt like I lacked power, with the 3.54s, even on the occasional steep slope or rock.
I did not find the straight up logging trails and didn't look because that area was generally a swamp. Given the fact that I was alone and would typically be the only vehicle in those areas, I didn't see the point in searching closer.
I think the 4.11 gears are going to be for on road driveability and trailering only. In 4 low I never felt like I lacked power, with the 3.54s, even on the occasional steep slope or rock.
I did not find the straight up logging trails and didn't look because that area was generally a swamp. Given the fact that I was alone and would typically be the only vehicle in those areas, I didn't see the point in searching closer.
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