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Buick 350 V8 Swap??

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Old 03-15-2008, 08:26 PM
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Does anybody know if a60's or 70'sBuicksmall block will mate toa Land Rover Disco I/II tranny? Has anyone see this done? Consideringthe L/R 4.0 was at one timea Buick motor. I've never read anywhere that they changed the bell housing pattern ...and from what I can figure out, the next generation of Buick small blocks were a direct derivitive of the 215 (only iron). That would lead me to believe one could drop a Buick 350 right in.

Maybe what I should be asking is if a Buick orOlds215 would mate directly to a Disco?

Forget about all the electronics, engine management and driveline strength - I'm not considering doing this, my engine runs fine. I was just wonderingif it would work ...or if anybody has seen it done? What do ya think?

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Ok, I may have found my answer out. I read a few posts where guys have installed the Rover motor directly into their Buicks. Here's an interesting link:
http://www.roversd1.nl/sd1web/capacity3.html

http://www.aluminumv8.com/tech/tech.htm
 
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A Land Rover 4.0L V8 long block is 340lbs,, if you could
put another V8in you would have to find springs that could handle the extra weight and the heavy duty springs that are out now could not do it.

Let alone new heavier anti-sway bars.

Its a mad circle for power.

If someone made a kit to put anew small V8 in to the Disco's they would make a mint.
With the price of Rover motors $6000 to $8000 we will see
over the next few years a lot of Disco's sold with blown motors, trany's ect cheap.
 
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This is an old thread, I know, but maybe others like me are researching this issues and maybe the discussion is worth reopening as Disco I and II and P38s age and engines wear out. Rebuilds with top hats cost as much or more than the value of the truck, so it doesn’t always make sense.

How about using a cast Buick 300 engine in place of the Rover V8? The 300, as I understand it, was the 215 case in iron and bored (I believe 300 cid is around 4.6)

as I understand it, the issues and difference are:

Buick 300 heads are, most commonly, cast Iron plus the Bosch and GEMS intakes are not a bolt up to them, however, I believe the orginal AL Rover heads will bolt up to the iron Buick block. I understand that the 300 is marginally wider, so a spacer would need to be made for each side of the intake to fill the void.

The Buick 300 uses the Buick-Olds-Pontiac bell housing bolt pattern, so you’d need to make an adapter to mate it to the ZF bell housing. The back end of the 300 crankshaft is longer than the Rover crank, so, the end of the crank would need to be machined down. Flex plate may or may not present issues as well. My question would be would a 4.6 Rover crank interchange with the Buick 300 without machining? I am not sure of the weight of the Buick block with the Rover heads, I know it would be more, but not sure by how much or if it would be manageable as is or with a coil spring conversion?

The front oil pump housing would need to be removed and swaped with the Rover (fitment issues?), to remove the dizzy and to have a cam position sensor, probably the timing gear/chain would need to be swapped as well, for the cam sersor pickup.

a crank sensor would need to be cut/added into the Buick 300. I believe the hole would be made in the bell housing adapter or by adding a gear (pick up) and sensor at the crank pully. I believe both engines have the same firing order?

i am unsure about issues with the starter (reusing the LR starter or making the Buick starter work, or somehow combining the two?).

So, has anybody tried this? Did it work out? What am I missing/leaving out? It would be a ton of work, but would likely make for a dependable Rover engine that would appear virtually stock under the hood!

BTW, I am not trying to start a war here. I know some folks think doing such a thing is an insult to HRH herself (and I can apprieciate that as well) but in my humble opinion, idoing this would be the closest thing to keeping an orginal appearance and could potentially be done cheaper and last longer than remaning the orginal engine.
 
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