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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 05:01 PM
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Just to state it; the TC works pretty great, I have no desire to ever remove that.
The statement about ABS stopping distances has and always will be true for every ABS system. Correct; it is to maintain steering control while braking, NOT to help you stop better or shorter like most people seem to think.
What I'm saying, as I'm gently applying the brakes more and more, I feel the decelerative forces more and more, then all of a sudden ABS kicks in and I feel drastically reduced deceleration.
I am really thinking a good bit has to do with the larger diameter tires; it lets them rotate 2 degrees for each pulse which it thinks is 6" (complete estimates), but instead they are rotating 2 degrees and traveling 8". (again, all made up numbers)
So it could certainly be said that I could drive slower, but I haven't needed that extra space, so I am driving for the conditions. I'm more concerned when the wife takes out the kids, since she won't expect this.
FWIW, I've been racing cars including designing and building for 2 decades and have probably 100+ hours of track time on road courses. I know cars, design, tires, and brakes; and I can tell you, this ain't right. Race cars generally don't use ABS since experienced drivers know, it has almost entirely negative effects, provided you know what you're doing. ABS was made for common folk who slam on the brakes and wonder why they can't turn at the same time.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 06:48 PM
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Broken08, you have a valid point. As the tires are larger the peripheral distance travelled by the tires per pulse will be greater and not within the design set up of the original tire diameter. This will then probably have a snatching effect on the wheel and hence braking system as the slippage distance will be recognised fractionally later by the ABS sensor and tend to 'grab' at the brakes on the slipping wheel rather than pulse the braked wheel. I don't know whether the ABS modulator or SLABS can be adjusted to compensate for the larger diameter tires and that's something beyond my knowledge. To test out the possibility of this if you have stock diameter wheels and tires you could fit those and see whether the same ABS phenomena occurs with those other than that I cannot really see an alternative. The LR dealer Test Book procedure can check to see whether the ABS pulsing is sequencing correctly as the pulse cycles are given in the RAVE manual I believe.
 
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