Chasing the multiple misfires
Thanks for all the helpful replies.
I’m going to have to start self teaching on the monitors, fuel trims, and O2 voltages. Thanks in advance for your patience - I’ll be asking a lot of questions.
Also, while I did see misfires on almost all cylinders in the past, after changing the spark plug wires, I’m consistently seeing misfires on 3, 4, 7, and 8. I don’t think that is coil related. Also checked the coil connectors when I had everything apart. No corroded or pushed out pins and all wires look good - coil side looked good too.
I’m going to have to start self teaching on the monitors, fuel trims, and O2 voltages. Thanks in advance for your patience - I’ll be asking a lot of questions.
Also, while I did see misfires on almost all cylinders in the past, after changing the spark plug wires, I’m consistently seeing misfires on 3, 4, 7, and 8. I don’t think that is coil related. Also checked the coil connectors when I had everything apart. No corroded or pushed out pins and all wires look good - coil side looked good too.
Hmm.. So the Siamese aspect of the coils applies to top and bottom ports - not side to side. Maybe I’ll clean all the grease off of 4 and 7 first. And if I have to take the damn plenum off again, I’m replacing both coils - and probably ordering a fancy relocation kit (insert wink emoji). BTW, what hose needs to be modified for the relocation kit?
Did it shake badly at idle, or stumble while accelerating? A hard misfire does that. Or can you otherwise feel the misfiring while driving? Good to learn about O2 trends because if the trends are good, that means all the parts and pieces (sensors, valves, ECM, spark plugs, etc) are functioning well together.
Last edited by JohnZo; Mar 17, 2025 at 11:28 PM.
Hmm.. So the Siamese aspect of the coils applies to top and bottom ports - not side to side. Maybe I’ll clean all the grease off of 4 and 7 first. And if I have to take the damn plenum off again, I’m replacing both coils - and probably ordering a fancy relocation kit (insert wink emoji). BTW, what hose needs to be modified for the relocation kit?
I fought w trimming the hose, and yes you can do that. But I would get a 7/8" ID hose from the hardware store. Something thinner and more flexible. In my case the nipple on the intake was close enough to the coil that combined with the thickness of the oem hose, it was really difficult to get it to fit. I shaved it down, grinded it thinner, cut it, etc. Ultimately it worked, but it would be a better use of time to just buy something more flexible. I was going to buy a new hose, but the time to modify the existing was shorter than a trip to the store. I still dont like how it pushing against the coil pack and I will probably replace it next time I go to the store.
I prefer a more thorough approach to this which creates an exportable file and allows you to do a lot more with the data on a computer in Excel. First set up the data collection parameters by going to Settings<>Preferences<>Logging<>Select PIDs<>SAE PIDs. That's where the most important Data Sets are. You'll see multiple options on that list for Short Term and Long Term for the different banks. Make sure Logging Enabled is turned on on the Preferences tab. Once you finish the drive go to Logs<>Files and select the most recent log file from the list (assuming you have older ones), then select Share. You see multiple ways to get the file onto a computer. Open it in Excel and from there you can create graphs of the data. Here's what that can look like.

@Tony Luna Did you resolve the issue? I'm having some random similar misfires too (hesitation on launch, a wee bit of rough idle) and all related components are similarly in great shape, if not brand new.
I fought w trimming the hose, and yes you can do that. But I would get a 7/8" ID hose from the hardware store. Something thinner and more flexible. In my case the nipple on the intake was close enough to the coil that combined with the thickness of the oem hose, it was really difficult to get it to fit. I shaved it down, grinded it thinner, cut it, etc. Ultimately it worked, but it would be a better use of time to just buy something more flexible. I was going to buy a new hose, but the time to modify the existing was shorter than a trip to the store. I still dont like how it pushing against the coil pack and I will probably replace it next time I go to the store.


