Clear Up Some Confussion - CDL...
Im a bit confused here: I know the early DIIs (like a 2000) has the CDL, but my understanding is that there is no way to engage it (I.e. like a "shifter" or lever).
I just need a few questions answered to clear up my confusion:
-how do they (LR) expect you to engage it if there is no "stock" way to do it?
-why even have the CDL if there isnt a way to engage it (or even have an option to lock the axles if you can't engage this option)?
-how do you modify/fab up something so you can use the CDL?
-Im looking at a used 2000 Disco and the guy doesnt sound like he knows anything about the CDL...this worries me because I am guessing he never locked it. Is this something to worry about?
I just need a few questions answered to clear up my confusion:
-how do they (LR) expect you to engage it if there is no "stock" way to do it?
-why even have the CDL if there isnt a way to engage it (or even have an option to lock the axles if you can't engage this option)?
-how do you modify/fab up something so you can use the CDL?
-Im looking at a used 2000 Disco and the guy doesnt sound like he knows anything about the CDL...this worries me because I am guessing he never locked it. Is this something to worry about?
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A scrowl down till you see the D1 CDL shifter that can be added to your truck to allow a 99, 2000, 2001 to be engaged when wanted, then sit back and enjoy all the extra traction.
A scrowl down till you see the D1 CDL shifter that can be added to your truck to allow a 99, 2000, 2001 to be engaged when wanted, then sit back and enjoy all the extra traction.
To answer your questions...
When BMW bought LR in the late '90's they wanted to improve sales because LR was a money losing business.
So they did studies and North America was the market they were most looking to make money in.
So in their studies they found out that their target market (soccer moms) never took their trucks off road.
So they removed the CDL shifter from the truck, they used the exact same t-case as the trucks that were sold in the rest of the world where they actually off road.
Charge the same price but leave out a $200 part and your profits went up $200 per unit.
Then they just never installed the CDL in the t-case at all for the NAS (North American Spec)
They also removed the oil cooler.
So the DII's with no CDL have no oil cooler either.
That is also why they went with the non serviceable front driveshaft, soccer mom who takes her truck to the quick lube for oil changes cant be bothered with grease, and they all lease their trucks so they get a new one ever 3 years so the driveshaft coming apart and taking out the transmission was not a concern.
The DII looked rough and tough, handled like a car and had a nice stereo, what more does a mall crawler need?
When BMW bought LR in the late '90's they wanted to improve sales because LR was a money losing business.
So they did studies and North America was the market they were most looking to make money in.
So in their studies they found out that their target market (soccer moms) never took their trucks off road.
So they removed the CDL shifter from the truck, they used the exact same t-case as the trucks that were sold in the rest of the world where they actually off road.
Charge the same price but leave out a $200 part and your profits went up $200 per unit.
Then they just never installed the CDL in the t-case at all for the NAS (North American Spec)
They also removed the oil cooler.
So the DII's with no CDL have no oil cooler either.
That is also why they went with the non serviceable front driveshaft, soccer mom who takes her truck to the quick lube for oil changes cant be bothered with grease, and they all lease their trucks so they get a new one ever 3 years so the driveshaft coming apart and taking out the transmission was not a concern.
The DII looked rough and tough, handled like a car and had a nice stereo, what more does a mall crawler need?
They are all special, just like you. You have a 2000, with oil cooler and with a transfer case with a center locking differential, you are just missing the linkage that the DIs had. You can lock your differential, but you need to crawl under the truck and shift the nut manually. It is on top of the transfer case, just to the driver's side of the front driveshaft as it attaches to the transfer case. Phil
I really need to update my signature to show mods, etc. I installed an 04 CDL shifter last year sometime, so all is good. I guess my question was: Was Spike meaning that the only DIIs which did not have an oil cooler were the ones which had no CDL equipped transfer case (2001.5-2003 I think), or DIIs in general?
Disregard- I read that when I just got home from work, and my brain wasn't working properly. I comprehend now.
Disregard- I read that when I just got home from work, and my brain wasn't working properly. I comprehend now.
Last edited by lordmorpheus; Jun 25, 2010 at 08:45 PM.
Now keep in mind that I am not knocking DII's, and I do not know exactly which years do or do not have the oil cooler but it is general consensus that no CDL nipple no oil cooler.
BMW decided it was not needed because 98% of SUV's sold in the US never leave the road.
BMW decided it was not needed because 98% of SUV's sold in the US never leave the road.
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