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Old 12-23-2014, 08:55 AM
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am I missing something? pretty sure I am. my understanding =
the cross member absence, was absolutely not the cause of any damage, but rather the un supported exhaust removal technique? cross member delete was not a cause....?
in other words, if you used a jack stand to catch the y pipe and support it, during removal, you would have been fine?
 
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Old 12-23-2014, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by dusty1
am I missing something? pretty sure I am. my understanding =
the cross member absence, was absolutely not the cause of any damage, but rather the un supported exhaust removal technique? cross member delete was not a cause....?
in other words, if you used a jack stand to catch the y pipe and support it, during removal, you would have been fine?
That's what I got from the story as well...
 
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Old 12-23-2014, 09:27 AM
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yeah wasn't sure if my 2nd grade comprehension ability was at fault or maybe someone else misread. thanks.


for future reference..i use a bar camp to rest that junk on, when I unbolt. 2 seconds to clamp from outer frame.
 
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Old 12-24-2014, 09:24 AM
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That's what I got from the story as well...


With the Cross Bar on, this would have never had happen...The Bar would have supported the weight of the cats. I'm sure of that . The wires on the sensors would of never snapped .
 
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Old 05-03-2018, 12:50 PM
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Default Cracked front windshield!

I cut my crossmember off with a sawzall so I could get my oil pan off. As soon as I removed it the windshield cracked horizontally across the whole thing. I'm guessing that even though it doesn't seem structural, it is needed. Or I maybe I just have bad luck.
 
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Old 05-03-2018, 01:13 PM
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...did you cut the crossmember itself or the bolts?

Also, is your frame rusted?

Sounds firstly like bad luck, but reinforces my belief in the need of the front crossmember. I noticed a huge difference in handling characteristics with and without.
 
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Old 05-03-2018, 01:24 PM
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I’ve noticed absolutely no difference with that bar removed. If your handling changes you’ve got other issues. I can cruise 80MPH, drive down a twisty road and it feels exactly the same.

I’ve removed maybe 12 to 15 of them and never noticed a single bit of difference.

Our D2 windshields are basically glued into place with sealant and there would be plenty of slack to keep a windshield from cracking. I’ve seen D2’s that completely twisted from hitting another vehicle or even rolled & the front windshield wasn’t touched.

Only time I noticed any handling differences was going from an ACE D2 to a non ACE D2 or riding in one with the sway bars disconnected.
 
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Old 05-03-2018, 02:10 PM
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Yeah I don't see how the removal of the crossbar could cause any difference in drivability. Mines been gone a few months, no difference. The only purpose of it was to stop the driveshaft from pogo-sticking your car. I ran it with RTE spacers for awhile, but the articulation was still limiting, and its a hazard to get caught on things when off-roading. So off it goes!
 
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Old 05-03-2018, 03:07 PM
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Do you mean to suggest LR knew in advance that the front propshaft design was a ticking time bomb so they put in a crossbar rather than add serviceable U-Joints? WOW!
 
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Old 05-03-2018, 03:17 PM
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I don't off road but I am still on the fence to remove mine.
It had to be installed for a good reason.
 


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