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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 08:09 PM
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Question Ethanol E85 fuel...

A local fuel station sells E85 'corn' fuel at $1.70-gal.(and 87 octane at $2.)
I asked the owner if it is 85% gasoline or 85% ethanol and... dooh!... did not know
Very redfaced not knowing what he sells, he will find out by my next visit.

Has anyone tried that on our cars ? Comments ?

Water mixes well with ethanol but not with gasoline... some weird chemical behavior there.
 

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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 08:56 PM
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E85 is 85% ethanol. I wouldn't run it in any vehicle not designed for it (some Fords were, others as well..). Supposedly bad for seals/O-rings/hoses that aren't specifically made to tolerate high concentrations of ethanol and corrosive to the rest of the fuel system. I haven't tried it but doesn't seem worth the risk.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 09:04 PM
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It eats through plastics, rubbers, and seals that aren't designed through it. It will run, but the longevity of the fuel system will suffer greatly. It's literally 15% gasoline with 85% moonshine because it's just corn alcohol. Water will condense in it quite a lot and cause corrosion and the alcohol eats seals. Unless you went through and replaced all the seals with some rated for alcohol and also kept an additive in the tank to deal with the water build up, I'd say no. That said, I'd love for my disco to run on E85. That would be great for a turbo setup...
 
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 11:54 PM
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One more reason to never buy a Land Rover if you are inclined to go cheap on the simple things like fuel.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave03S
One more reason to never buy a Land Rover if you are inclined to go cheap on the simple things like fuel.
That's total uninformed rubbish

If you stick to normal fuels, which isn't difficult in most parts of the world, LR's are fine. If you had sensible diesels and normal governments it's the obvious way forward. All the crap about emmissions fed by those interested parties and twinkies is causing you a problem. Super fuels are for hi revving super cars, most regular V8's will burn ordinary octane fuel, if you want to run cheapo bio fuels you do so at your own risk anywhere in the world.






Do your research before making outrageous statements.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 09:29 AM
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Say and do what you want but I'm not putting E85 in my Rover.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 10:23 AM
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My son (by accident) put some E85 in his Grand Prix GT , it took out some seals and the motor caught fire from the fuel leaking. Car was total loss.

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Ethanol is the worst stuff out there. it degrades power,and fuel economy unless the vehicle is designed to run it. Most top tier premium fuels don't have any ethanol in them, but some do. I stay away from that junk in all my cars.
 

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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave03S
Say and do what you want but I'm not putting E85 in my Rover.
E85 is excellent ............... only for washing parts in though, as a fuel, IMO, it's rubbish
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 02:03 PM
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my experience when I run low grade is the o2 sensors get all fouled up. Run high octane like everyone else and you should be good to go....
 
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 03:57 PM
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When I had easy availability to E85, back in the midwest, I ran about a 40-60 blend of E85 and 87 octane, thats right around 94 octane. I ran that pretty often for four years there. Since then, I've been in Florida for three years I haven't even seen an E85 pump.

As far as the engine and emissions go, zero problems in all that time during or after. It's all antidotal evidence.
 
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