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I am with you. The closest inde rover shop is 45-60 minute drive on highway so prob will hit the local first and see what they say.
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Well my coolent leak is my throttle body defroster. It is actually cracked. I am working a side job right now so I am having a local shop I found fix it. They are going to replace the defroster and gasket. They are going to do a flush and refill of the coolent system. Then pressure test it for me to make sure all leaks are corrected. I could deff save money by doing it myself but since I am working a side job right now it will be ok.
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11-23-2010, 11:26 AM
Well my coolent leak is my throttle body defroster. It is actually cracked. I am working a side job right now so I am having a local shop I found fix it. They are going to replace the defroster and gasket. They are going to do a flush and refill of the coolent system. Then pressure test it for me to make sure all leaks are corrected. I could deff save money by doing it myself but since I am working a side job right now it will be ok.
Also, tell them NOT to put in the orange organic acid technology (OAT) coolant...it's highly corrosive when exposed to air and if you every have another leak in your system it could cause a faster breakdown of other components. Other would argue with me, but I use universal green Peak.
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Have they done the work yet? Cause that stuff (aside from the the pressure test maybe) can easily be done no problem in about an hour. Your call, but unless they're hooking you up pretty cheaply, you could definitely save money doing it yourself.
Also, tell them NOT to put in the orange organic acid technology (OAT) coolant...it's highly corrosive when exposed to air and if you every have another leak in your system it could cause a faster breakdown of other components. Other would argue with me, but I use universal green Peak.
Also, tell them NOT to put in the orange organic acid technology (OAT) coolant...it's highly corrosive when exposed to air and if you every have another leak in your system it could cause a faster breakdown of other components. Other would argue with me, but I use universal green Peak.
I have asked them to pressure test the system after the repair. So I hope to be able to rule out any other leaks.
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I have several issues that are coming at my at once. And before I get hammered I will admit that I have been too busy to do some of the maintenance I should have done myself so be kind.
I have a 2002 disco 2 with 84k miles. I bought it two years ago with 53k on it. I have done general maintenance. Belts etc..
Issues:
1. Coolant leak previous thread (https://landroverforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33316) As some quick background I was driving and the engine started to over heat. I pulled over as soon as I could get to an off ramp. So yes the engine did get hot. As soon as I was on the off ramp I pulled into the grass and walked to a trucking maintenance facility. They gave me a jug of water and I limped to a safe location. The coolant looked like it had boiled out of the expansion tank. Upon inspection I found a crack in the expansion tank. I decided to replace the tank and the thermostat as those both seemed like reasonable places to start. I have not had the same issue but I continue to have to add coolant. I also see what looked like coolant trail coming down the back of the engine onto the oil pan and frame. It is not enough to make it to the ground. I also have a slight oil leak now. I have called 3 places locally that will work on land rovers. The dealership just stated that I need to bring it in for a diagnostic and inspection. So lets say 100-200 dollars. Then whatever they find. The second place said bring it in for a initial 72 dollar inspection then whatever the find from there. The third place also wanted to look at it but is figuring the motor is bad and will probably need to be replaced. They stated if that is the case they have a 4L there already ready to go for 4200 installed. It includes all new belts, hoses, water pump, and plugs. I have a feeling that the third place may be right. What test should I ask for confirmation? A pressure test? How are the results defined for those? What is a result that indicates a bad motor? I might add that the third place was recommended by two separate land rover owners I have met. Any thoughts would be helpful. Oh and to make sure I explain any other relevant info shortly after buying the car I had to replace the radiator. I am not sure if the coolant needed to be topped of after that because for around 8 months as I was real busy and just had a place do the oil and fluids for me and cannot seem to find the receipts. I will call and see if they have record. So maybe the radiator was bad because the engine had been run hot before I even bought the car???
2. ABS code. I got three amigos after having a local shop put new front rotors and front break pads in. I believe the brake kit used was similar to this one or maybe this one. (http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/9542.cfm). My understanding was that these are not top end of course but a decent set of parts that should be ok. I do not hold the shop responsible for this as I asked to use a medium quality set as I was broke at the time. So the day I picked it up from them I got the three amigos. They could not read the ABS codes so I took it to the dealership. They did the diagnostic and stated that I need a new front right speed sensor. Price is 600 dollars. Should I get a second opinion or does this sound likely and reasonable? They said it was just a coincident and had nothing to do with the install or parts. I did here some squealing but they said that was from a glaze that had built up.
3. P4055 gross evap leak. (https://landroverforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21725&page=2) Smoke tested by dealer 3 times and by another shop 1 time. No leak found. Dealer thinks next step is to drop the tank and look for issue there. 200 dollars to drop tank and test. I have already had some good suggestions so I am really only putting this issue in just as a whole picture kind of step.
Looks like I may have 5k or more of repairs. I am proving to be not as good at repairs as I had hoped. I can do the window regulators and did the radiator but these issues seem to be over my head. Obvioulsy bit off more then I can chew. Wife will be pleased to hear it. On one hand the car is not worth much as is. What 2k at best? So you might think I have no choice but to fix these issues. On the other you wonder if I am up to the challenge of owning this car. If I have all repairs completed will I face a new sensor next month? If I can do minor maintenance myself but have to have major repairs done by shop what is the average repairs I might expect a year? Any ideas? I really like the truck but am feeling beat down.
The car body is clean. Interior is in good shape minus the lining of ceiling starting to sag. Has 3rd row. Seems to be in good shape minus issues mentioned above.
I have a 2002 disco 2 with 84k miles. I bought it two years ago with 53k on it. I have done general maintenance. Belts etc..
Issues:
1. Coolant leak previous thread (https://landroverforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33316) As some quick background I was driving and the engine started to over heat. I pulled over as soon as I could get to an off ramp. So yes the engine did get hot. As soon as I was on the off ramp I pulled into the grass and walked to a trucking maintenance facility. They gave me a jug of water and I limped to a safe location. The coolant looked like it had boiled out of the expansion tank. Upon inspection I found a crack in the expansion tank. I decided to replace the tank and the thermostat as those both seemed like reasonable places to start. I have not had the same issue but I continue to have to add coolant. I also see what looked like coolant trail coming down the back of the engine onto the oil pan and frame. It is not enough to make it to the ground. I also have a slight oil leak now. I have called 3 places locally that will work on land rovers. The dealership just stated that I need to bring it in for a diagnostic and inspection. So lets say 100-200 dollars. Then whatever they find. The second place said bring it in for a initial 72 dollar inspection then whatever the find from there. The third place also wanted to look at it but is figuring the motor is bad and will probably need to be replaced. They stated if that is the case they have a 4L there already ready to go for 4200 installed. It includes all new belts, hoses, water pump, and plugs. I have a feeling that the third place may be right. What test should I ask for confirmation? A pressure test? How are the results defined for those? What is a result that indicates a bad motor? I might add that the third place was recommended by two separate land rover owners I have met. Any thoughts would be helpful. Oh and to make sure I explain any other relevant info shortly after buying the car I had to replace the radiator. I am not sure if the coolant needed to be topped of after that because for around 8 months as I was real busy and just had a place do the oil and fluids for me and cannot seem to find the receipts. I will call and see if they have record. So maybe the radiator was bad because the engine had been run hot before I even bought the car???
2. ABS code. I got three amigos after having a local shop put new front rotors and front break pads in. I believe the brake kit used was similar to this one or maybe this one. (http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/9542.cfm). My understanding was that these are not top end of course but a decent set of parts that should be ok. I do not hold the shop responsible for this as I asked to use a medium quality set as I was broke at the time. So the day I picked it up from them I got the three amigos. They could not read the ABS codes so I took it to the dealership. They did the diagnostic and stated that I need a new front right speed sensor. Price is 600 dollars. Should I get a second opinion or does this sound likely and reasonable? They said it was just a coincident and had nothing to do with the install or parts. I did here some squealing but they said that was from a glaze that had built up.
3. P4055 gross evap leak. (https://landroverforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21725&page=2) Smoke tested by dealer 3 times and by another shop 1 time. No leak found. Dealer thinks next step is to drop the tank and look for issue there. 200 dollars to drop tank and test. I have already had some good suggestions so I am really only putting this issue in just as a whole picture kind of step.
Looks like I may have 5k or more of repairs. I am proving to be not as good at repairs as I had hoped. I can do the window regulators and did the radiator but these issues seem to be over my head. Obvioulsy bit off more then I can chew. Wife will be pleased to hear it. On one hand the car is not worth much as is. What 2k at best? So you might think I have no choice but to fix these issues. On the other you wonder if I am up to the challenge of owning this car. If I have all repairs completed will I face a new sensor next month? If I can do minor maintenance myself but have to have major repairs done by shop what is the average repairs I might expect a year? Any ideas? I really like the truck but am feeling beat down.
The car body is clean. Interior is in good shape minus the lining of ceiling starting to sag. Has 3rd row. Seems to be in good shape minus issues mentioned above.
ok so in case anyone is curios. Come on sure you are.
1. Throttle body and head gasket. Fixed the throttle body and then found the head gasket. Throttle body was not much to fix at all. The head gasket was not too bad as I needed new plugs and wires and also a new belt. So I found a place in Norman OKlahoma that did the head gasket, plugs/wires, and belt for 1800-ish. Oh and that inlcuded throwing on new brake pads and roters in the back. I had the parts already for the pads and rotters.
2. I purchased an ABS amigo. I cleared the ABS codes with ABS amigo and it never came until I had new spads and rotters put on in the back. Funny both times it was a day or two after new pads and roters. I first got a squeel then the amigos. Neither tiem did I have them use squeel ease or anythign so I guess I have to remeber that next time.
3. The p4055 cleared istelf around 2 weeks ago. No idea why. I did not clear it. It never failed a smoke test but was around for along time so I figure there was something to it but all of a sudden it just cleared. Weird. Could come back of course.
4. Oil leak. O ring just above the oil filter, I forget what it is called now. Ordered it but got the wrong one in. Reordered. Will see.
If I get that o-ring in and the p4055 does not come back them maybe I can actually put money to somethign that is not a repair. Like new tires. Have nitto terra grapplers on right now and prob will keep those. Tread is still descent but really starting to show their age.
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