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Old 08-15-2018, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Thoth0Amon
I was wondering that -> My temps did drop a few degrees after switching from a 50/50 ratio to 60/40 water to coolant, I can try upping the ratio and bleeding more and see what effect it has. Thanks!
The reason you run hotter on the highway is because the truck is programmed to run close looped during partial throttle/cruising on the lean side for mileage. When your in stop and go, moderate to heavy acceleration or at idle your in open loop mode running mildly rich which cools the engine not to mention your condenser/auxiliary fan is on with a certain intake air temp or coolant temp which ever comes first. This is from the rave manual and for the 1999 to 03/04 model year I believe
 
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Old 08-15-2018, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by akrover90
Yup, same here. This time of year my ‘04 idles in town traffic at 189>194. I occasionally see 196, and very rarely 198 for a second of two. The highest I ever see on the hwy is 194 for a blip. It is in the 180’s 95% of the time.
Basically what I’m saying is it runs on computer tables when you not cruising and sitting at every light with the a/c on too. Computer programming tends to err on the rich side to compensate for elevated idle temperatures from what I’ve found on most cars. The system turns on the auxiliary fan around 149 degrees intake air temperature or when coolant hits 210 degrees and turns off at 202 degrees. On my truck the engine bay is scalding hot and it’s 110 degrees outside so I know it’s air temp in the intake triggering my fan to engage. When cruising it takes in data from the oxygen sensors and other sensor parameters.
 
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Originally Posted by Thoth0Amon
Hey folks!
Long time reader, first time poster - so cut me some slack

I need everyone's opinion on my Hwy vs Stop-n-Go temperatures. Currently, I'm getting 186f - 194f in the city, including long idles, hot days, stop and go, etc etc. Never budges above 197, ever. The confusing part is that on the Highway I'll sit in the 199f - 207f range, usually around 207f at ~70 mph, or around 2,500 rpm's. I'm wondering why my temperatures are increasing over the highway here? Especially considering how I usually sit in the upper 80's / low 90's driving around town, in the summer. Any ideas I can look into?

I've pretty much re-built the cooling system here at 142k miles:

-New hoses throughout
-New Nissans radiator
-New 180deg thermostat
-New water pump
-Completely flushed old coolant, running roughly 60 / 40 ratio water / coolant + water wetter
-New expansion tank
-OEM fan, but viscous clutch seems to be fine, works like it should
-No obvious air way blockages across the grill

Disco 2 is a 2004, around 143k miles. Any ideas on why my temps are going up so much over the highway? Seems like every thread people mention their hwy temps being lower than city / stop and go, so I'm confused here. Not sure if this matters, but my throttle body heater plate is bypassed. Thanks and much appreciated!
207 is not outrageous, and it depends on what kind of driving you are doing. If you are passing aggressively, and really pushing the engine it will run a little hotter. A/C may contribute as well.

The Cooling System sounds square, but have you cleaned the condenser? Have you checked in the Auxiliary fan is running?
 
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:14 AM
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Finally had a chance to do some hot weather driving with the new cooling system and electric fan... Found the same result, over 80 degrees F and 70mph temps went up. Usually 188 on the highway, under these conditions a steady 194.

Interestingly as I was driving from South to North a distance of 200 miles the outside temps dropped by 10 degrees so I could watch the coolant temp drop back down as the outside air temp decreased from 87 to 77.

Flex-a-lite 300 cfm fan and controller seems to perfectly emulate the OG factory design... for better or worse...
 
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Originally Posted by Dave03S
Finally had a chance to do some hot weather driving with the new cooling system and electric fan... Found the same result, over 80 degrees F and 70mph temps went up. Usually 188 on the highway, under these conditions a steady 194.

Interestingly as I was driving from South to North a distance of 200 miles the outside temps dropped by 10 degrees so I could watch the coolant temp drop back down as the outside air temp decreased from 87 to 77.

Flex-a-lite 300 cfm fan and controller seems to perfectly emulate the OG factory design... for better or worse...
I had this experience with both stock and HD viscous fans, Taurus Fan, Flex A Lite 15" fan with Shroud, and my current pontiac GTO fans set up. It seems to me it is very limited by the size of the radiator, and design of the thermostat which is pretty restrictive compared to running an open system.
 
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Old 08-20-2018, 04:15 AM
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Over the weekend, I drove 160 miles round trip to Northampton.
I monitored my highway engine temps with UltraGauge Blue going 55-60 MPH at ambient temps of 68F/20C and I was getting 187F- 192F temps. At idle I'm at 184F - 188F.
 

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