Keys & Transponders
#11
"There is a post on this forum with a form that will create the bar codes you need for hawkeye 4 and 5. I got my codes from a land rover tech. "
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Been there; done that---I spent a lot of time with this, and with PMs to posters. Using what you suggest, I WAS able to create bar code for used fobs, bar codes that the creator of the system for creating the codes AGREED that I had done it right. Also spent a lot of time with my Hawkeye, trying to program used key fobs with those created bar codes; nothing worked. Emphasis, flat out, nothing worked, so I don't have a clue how you did it, how you got it to program used fobs---it sure as h... didn't work for me. And that is precisely why I contacted Bearmach and their subsidiary who makes the Hawkeye, to try to convince them to put the programming on next version of firmware, to program used key fobs, with success. Don't you think that, when I initially contacted them, if version 5 firmware would have somehow been able to program used key fobs, that they would have told me about it, or told me what I had to do to get the job done? No, they told me it couldn't program used fobs. So, I asked if they would be willing to include needed programming feature, for used fobs, in next updated firmware, version 6. After discussing it with their engineers for a day or two, they said that they could do what I asked, and that they would do as I asked. Now that version 6 firmware is out, it is nice that they included it. If anyone has any features they feel should be included on future updates of firmware, version 7 on, I strongly suggest that they do as I did, contact them, and ask that they include it on next update.
"good news that they added the feature in 6 to make it easier Yes, it is---MAKES ME HAPPY.
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Been there; done that---I spent a lot of time with this, and with PMs to posters. Using what you suggest, I WAS able to create bar code for used fobs, bar codes that the creator of the system for creating the codes AGREED that I had done it right. Also spent a lot of time with my Hawkeye, trying to program used key fobs with those created bar codes; nothing worked. Emphasis, flat out, nothing worked, so I don't have a clue how you did it, how you got it to program used fobs---it sure as h... didn't work for me. And that is precisely why I contacted Bearmach and their subsidiary who makes the Hawkeye, to try to convince them to put the programming on next version of firmware, to program used key fobs, with success. Don't you think that, when I initially contacted them, if version 5 firmware would have somehow been able to program used key fobs, that they would have told me about it, or told me what I had to do to get the job done? No, they told me it couldn't program used fobs. So, I asked if they would be willing to include needed programming feature, for used fobs, in next updated firmware, version 6. After discussing it with their engineers for a day or two, they said that they could do what I asked, and that they would do as I asked. Now that version 6 firmware is out, it is nice that they included it. If anyone has any features they feel should be included on future updates of firmware, version 7 on, I strongly suggest that they do as I did, contact them, and ask that they include it on next update.
"good news that they added the feature in 6 to make it easier Yes, it is---MAKES ME HAPPY.
#12
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I not only tried the bar codes developed by main guy on this forum who "reverse engineered" them, as you say, but he showed me how to do the developing. I repeatedly worked it out, getting same results as the guy who did the reverse engineering for codes. We both agreed that numbered bar code was correct, for given used fob, and we did it too for additional key fobs, so I could try more than just the one example. Further, I had a Land Rover technician not only do his "magic," but I also had him show me how he did it, how to get the code from the number on the little paper piece on top of the integrated circuit in the printed circuit inside the key fob. The bar code we worked out, and the ones the LR tech. worked out, agreed; they were the same. Yet Nothing worked; I could not program used key fobs with those bar codes with Hawkeye, version5---I don't give up easily.
Thus, as I said, I have no idea how you did it, how you got it to program used fobs.
Last edited by earlyrover; 02-05-2014 at 06:52 PM.
#15
2004 LR Disco II model - lock issue
I don't know what a "transponder" is, but I do know that at least the 2003 and 2004 DO have a chip in the key fob, for remote activation of the door locking system. I did a lot of investigation, and talking to the the LR dealer, to learn that, if one wants to get a new replacement key fob (or second fob key set) one must buy a NEW key fob, WITH ITS ATTACHED BAR CODE, TO ENABLE THE LR dealer to be able to program that new key fob for your particular Rover--they told me they will not program used key fobs for your vehicle. The new firmware version, version 6, on the Hawkeye diagnostic scanner, and some similar diagnostic scanners, will program USED key fobs (ones originally used on other vehicles other than yours), so any used key fob bought off ebay, etc. will work with your vehicle after programming with Hawkeye or similar scanner (previously, this wasn't the case; used fobs could not be programmed). You can, of course, get a simple metal key; not fob (electronic), that will work mechanically as well, the same as the original metal non electronic key. Fact is, that at least for the 2003/2004, as part of the electronic key fob locking system, they do have what is called "superlocking," as well as normal locking, whereby, in "superlocking" mode, the doors cannot be opened from inside or outside; should someone break a window, or otherwise enter vehicle; the alarm goes off, of course, but also the engine is immobilized; cannot be started--that is how my 2004 works; is described in manual.
hello;
yes same with my vehcile. I need an actuall new key with responder. Whefe can I get a copy made. Right now, I have one transponder key! I made a spare key but need another key made with chip!
#17
You can also use these guys when they get them back in stock. https://remotekey.co.uk/land-rover-k...-1999-to-2006/
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