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Try a generic 1515 EKA code

I cleared all the trouble codes and so on and shut the truck off.

I went out the next day to start the truck it started no problem but would not come out of park.
I shut the engine down and got out and locked the door with the key and then un locked it .I opened up the drivers door and the alarm sounded .

I have tried the usual methods of using the generic 1515 EKA and get no results.

I ordered a brand new key/fob assy from my local Land Rover dealer and a dear cost and it should arrive today some time.

I also tried my scanner again to see if i could get access to the puter the check for the EKA code number .My scanner will not communicate with the puter.I assume this is because the Alarm is in lock down mode.

I also called the stealer and was promptly told they can not give me the code because they have no way of getting it with out plugging in a scanner.well if i cant get it they wont be able to lol.Oh and the stealer is a good 5 hours away.

I have been doing ALOT of reading and iam confused as to how to program the new fob to work with the truck.

Is there anyone out there that can give me the correct procedure for a disco 2 reprograming.

I read that i have 8 secs and need two people .I have also read that all i need to do in install the key into the door lock and hold down on the lock button and lock the truck making sure i hold it in the lock position for at least 3 secs.

I also have a line on a used BeCM with matching Key fobs.Is it possible to take out the security control module and replace it with one with already programmed keyfobs?

I have also tried the leaving the key in ignition and in position 2 un hook battery and rehook up solution .This did not work either lol

Which procedure is correct for my situation.


More EKA stuff from Googling..

Hey Al. EKA is four characters.

My EKA is Number-Letter-Number-Letter

I think facelift D2's used the number/letter sequence, early D2's just numbers

Like this .... 5 B 9 D

So, it actually 5 11 9 13

When you get to 9 counting, then continue on with letters, so A=10, B=11, C=12, D=13 and so on.

It's easier to get a Nanocom and change the EKA to something simple like 1 3 2 1 because it's a bitch turning the key 11 times one way, 12 times the other way, etc ...

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iscovery II remotes

Discovery II remotes can be programmed to another car but ONLY if it comes with the bar code, if there is no bar code with the key then it is useless and cannot be programmed. Once lost, the bar code cannot be obtained. Key blades for disco II can be swapped over.
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Tony:
Go into the EMS and go through the security learn mode or security synchronization.

I'm not familiar with the DEC machine so I can't help you directly, but you should be able to get it out of alarm mode. I've done it a coupla times using the Rovacom-Lite.

Swapping BCUs is more trouble than it's worth. Synchronizing new ECUs/BCUs is not an easy job and will try your patience.

PT

My DEC scanner is pretty much the same as the rova-com systems.I bought it from Rovers North a cpl of months ago.Before the security system locked up i was able to connect to sll the systems in the disco with no problem.Once the secutity system locked up i can not read or connect to the Becu or the interconnecting unit.I can get into anyother system other than those two.I have a call into DEC as we spesk to see how to get this sorted.By the way not to sound to uneducated lol what di you mean when you said i should look at the EMS?


Tony

EMS, engine management system.

I've synchronized boneyard ECUs to DIIs when they were in security lockdown mode using the Rovacom so I don't know why you can't do similar with the DEC.

Lemme know how it turns out.

Thanks for the advise.I just got in and tried again to connect to the Becm And EMS.As soon as the scanner detects the module it shuts down and all the dash lights and so on shut off.I hear the relay clicking off for the dash.As soon as it stopd trying to detect the Becm the dash comes back to life.


sn't there a way to reset it using the key in the drivers door?
So many turns to the right so many turn to the left......?
There is a 4 digit code number in my owners manual.
Called "Emergency Key Access" EKA on page 18 of my 2001 manual.
Have you tried this?

Tony:
Bear with me as I do not have a DEC and right now, the Rovacom isn't hooked up to a DII (although there are three in the shop today).


In the engine management system, there should be a function for "Security learn mode" or some such. Under BCU, there should be something related to RF memory or RF synchronization.

Somewhere, either in the BCU or Engine ECU manipulation functions, there will be something about matching keys to the vehicle and exiting alarm mode. Tomorrow should allow me some time to hack around a DII, I'll take a look to see what I can find.

While I have deservedly earned my reputation with P38 BeCMs and related circuitry, I need to earn the same with the DII. Give me some time :-)

PT

fully understand what you mean PT.I just got off the phone with Rovers North.They called DEC today and were told i should be able to access all of the Puters even if its in lockdown mode and the alarm is armed.They suspect the Becu went for a crap because i cant not conect to either the Engine management system or the Becu.I can get into the auto tranny and air bag system but nothing else.

I also got a call today from a used breaker and was told a used Becu with matching Key fobs will cost me $600.00.Hell i can buy a new one for about $280.00 so i think ill pass on that offer.

I appreciate everything and all the help

We had one here with the exact same issue...Had to keep messing with the dec to get it to communicate.

Under actuators/special programming...there is a set up called "reset led". We stumbled upon it after about 2hrs of no luck. Truck started after we ran the test..

The guys at Rovers North do not know the system at all...they are simply relaying messages...its a bit easier to go direct to DEC with any issues and they are really in to helping out..and fixing issues.
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Well it has been a fun week .


I got the new key fob in from the dealer who is 5.5 hours away.
I took it in to get it cut at my local key cutter and was told they cant cut a steel key.
The next day im off to another city to get the key cut.No probs there and was also told the first key cutter i went to could cut the key they just choses not to because its hard on thier equipment.Oh well its done.

I called DEC(super scann II)in europe.
They did a 3 way conference call with a land rover wizz andhe stated once the alarm has been tripped you cannot scan the Becu because you are locked out .You will need to EKAcode to disamr the truck then you can scann it and then program the new key fob.

Is any of this true .Has anyone else run into this .

Can anyone help me to get the EKA?the dealer and Land Rover have both left me out to swing in the wind.

If i change out the Becu with a new one can it be programed?
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I received a little gift this weekend .I had someone send me the Eka code for the disco.I waited for the weather to become nice and headed out with some enthusiam .

Before i went out side i made sure i read the "entering the Eka code " procedure several times to make sure i did the process correctly.

The first thing i noticed was there was no Beep of the horn when i held the key for the 5 secs in the unlock position.I tried to enter the code thinking maybe the horn bleep setting wasent hooked up or turned on.I waited the specified 5 mins and for the LED light to go out .Nothing happend.

I retried the process and apon entering the 3rd number the horn beeped once to tell me i was either entering the wrong code or did it incorrectly.

I have now tried entering the code in the opposite direction just incase there was a miss print in the book as to the procedure.All i get at this point is the horn beeping telling me in entering it wrong.

I now wondering if the Becu is shot and needs to be replaced?

Any suggestions hints would really help at this point.

T

OK new update.

I finally got the new Becu installed today after it finally arrived on friday.
I scanned the truck and had axcess to everything.The first thing i did was locate the EKA code.I scribbled it down in my note book.I checked everything and it all looked in order.I turned the key to see if the truck would start.It did :woo
For about 3 seconds and then quit :thud
I then shut everything down.got out locked the truck up.I unlocked it with the key and opened the door and the alarm went off :doh2
I closed and locked the door and the alarm shut off.I then entered the EKA which i wrote down this time :wh
It worked the truck accpeted it and the alarm disarmed and no LED light was on :up
I then opened the door and inserted the key and tried to start the truck.It started for about 3 secs and then shut down.Hmmmm now whats wrong.
Thinking there is something i forgot to reset and so on i rescanned the puters and there seems to be nothing wrong.

There is one trouble code thats telling me the immobilier code was wrong.I tried to clear the code witht the scanner and it wouldent clear the code hmmmmm

Im thinking there is something else wrong now.
I did axcess the fuelpump relay and the pump works well soooo
if anyone has any suggestions im alll eyes.
Ill be calling superscann tomorrow to also find out why im unable to reprogram key fobs like it says on their web site.

Further up dates to follow

I called DEC today and talked to the tech suppoet.The have new soft wear for their scanners which allows you to reprogram or resink your key fobs.I tried it and it still has some buggs to be worked out which they are at this moment trying to get sorted.The problem i think im having is the key fobs are working but are sending the wrong code to the Becu.This is not allowing the puter to receive the right code and thus imoblizing the truck.The comming out of park is another issue and so is the fuel door not opening i think.Every other system on the truck is working fine.Ill have to get the schematics out to see what controls what.

OK, now is when you have to go through the security learn mode. BTDT. It will take a couple of tries, but it is possible to synchronize the BCU with the ECU. Again, I believe it is in the petrol EMS module where you'll find the security learn mode function.

Thanks PT ill be doing that tomorrow with tech support on the phone.

I have been on the phone most of the day back and forth with my scanner company and they were on the phone with their soft wear wrighter.They are working on the problem and have sorted out most of the soft wear problems.I should know tomorrow in the morning how they are making out.Its funny they advertise on their web site on two seperate pages that im able to reprogram fobs and even resink them.The dident send me anything or show on their web site that the new soft wear was ready to down load.Im assuming they wanted me to wait till my free year subscription was over so they could charg me for the new updates.Oh well they were wrng and now need to get off their butts and sprt this thing out .

managed to get the new key fob programed today.It seems to be working fine .The only thing is the truck still wont start.It starts for a sec and then quits.I did a live scan and it come back that the truck is still immobilized.Any hints PT.I unhooked the battery and placed the key in position 2 rehooked up the battery.Im now waiting my five mins. __________________


Im sorry its has taken sooooo long for a reply but sometimes thats what it takes.
To date i have been in touch with my scanner company and they have been wrighting soft wear for my scanner.
To this day nothing has worked
I had to order a new Becu for the truck.Once the security ststem was tripped it became impossible to do anything with it.
Once the new Becu was installed and was scanned i told it to do a relearn.This is supposed to make it communicate with the engine ECU.I then told the engine ECU that the Becu was replaced.This situation should have cleared up any problems right .WRONG lol
I ended up giving a friend a call in the good old USA who had a wrecked DII.The truck was a running one at the time and the two puters were OK and worked together.
I ordered them and it took a cpl of weeks to get them in.
Well last night was the night .I installed the two puters.I reprogramed the key fob to the new puter and it worked
Now it was time to see if the new puters were going to talk to each other,Keeping my fingers crossed and toes as well i turned the key.
The truck fired right up and stayed running
I let it run fro a few minuits and then decided to try the key fob it worked
SO what have we learned here .
The new puter was defective go figure.
if you are going to try to replace one puter you may as well replace the other if they arnt communicating with each other.
You also have to reset all the perameters.
Also a little luck comes a long way when dealing with a DII also.
Now i can get back to the problems it came in for
Brakes ,tires and steering oh and a safety inspection.
Ill tell you now my knowledge base has gotten a lot bigger over this experience and now what and where to look for problems for the next one that comes into my shop.
A big thanks goes out to all who have given advise and tried to help.


Tony

Wow Tony;

Quite a story, glad it all worked out in the end.......I hope your experience can be of help to other owners...... looks like the Forum had some input there as well (great guys)

And i'll bet "Super Scan" (DEC) has learned something from all of this and add those features to their machines.....

I take my hat off to you for persistence

 

I got a matched pair like this for my 99. The hawkeye currently will not resync the ECM and BCU. Also, replacing these two items together will still cause the odometer to blink. The hawkeye can turn that off, but cannot resync the miles.

I will point out that I'm not convinced that this is the problem. My ECM had code for the issue with not being able to communicate with the BCU. Are there any codes stored?

 

Guys, I finally got it running yesterday!!! And I am very embarrassed. This whole time I had the CPS installed incorrectly. Well the machine shop put the spacers that go behind the CPS in first. When I replaced the CPS I put it back as it was. It was spaced too far out. I found this yesterday and after I corrected it, it fired right up.
I want to thank everyone for their help. I very much appreciate it...

Jason

 

Yippy Skippy - and you are a gentleman for updating us! Congratulations!

 

Good to hear. How's it running after the rebuild?

 

Mighty cool dude.

Glad you are back on the road.

 

I always love a happy ending to a story.

 

Thanks guys, its great to have it running again, although I am having a small problem. I'm now getting the codes, P0300, P0302, and P1590. I checked the compression on cylinder 2 and its only at 80 psi. Is this normal before the engine breaks in? I have only let it idle for about 20 minutes.

 

Would not think so, and didn't you have a shop rebuild the engine? Good idea to call them about it and warranty.....

300 is multiple misfires, 302 is misfire cylinder 2, 1590 is ABS rough road signal malfunction ( the ABS system tells the ECU when you are on a rough stretch of trail, so misfires can be ignored - but with your luck three amigos will come by to admire your engine.

 

im having the exact same issue I bout a LR without an engine and installed one everything comes on I can unlock with fob windows work fuel pump can be heard when jumped checked crankshaft sensor and it's installed correctly but still won’t run it’ll even start on starter fluid