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Old Feb 25, 2019 | 05:07 PM
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https://www.optimabatteries.com/en-us/support/charging

heres a page on the right kind of charging.

I will say, I think I know a secret...
what you do is find a high amp source and shock the battery with it....

I've done this with a couple optimas and also hand tool batteries and it let the battery charge to full again.
it didnt last longer than a couple full charges but I would just shock the battery again and it would work for awhile.

I believe it knocks the sulfide off the plates.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2019 | 05:13 PM
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I like this guys comment...

First of all, who ever said that Odyssey batteries don't have a vent doesn't know the facts. Odyssey batteries DO have a vent. You just can't see it very easily. It is a hidden rectangular opening, about 3mm tall by 9mm wide, between the side and top of the case. I own two Odyssey batteries. Absolutely the best batteries I've ever owned, by the way. Second of all, even with a vent, the Odyssey battery is still spillproof, because there is no free acid inside the battery; all of the acid is kept absorbed in the glass mat separators. Visit the Enersys website to read the FAQS for yourself.ODYSSEY Batteries - FAQ Third of all, Odyssey batteries are Made in the USA. Warraenburg, MO, to be exact. To some people, this isn't important. The Moon, or Mexico, no matter. But to others who are willing to vote with their pocketbooks to keep their brothers and sisters employed, it DOES make a difference. And the Odyssey battery provides like minded individuals the opportunity to make that vote of choice. When I bought my Ford truck, I refused to buy one with a "3" in front of the VIN. I held out for truck with a "1" in front of the VIN. "3" means made in Mexico. "1" means made in the USA. Same truck, same price. So why not support my countrymen and women? Nothing against Mexico, I'd just rather have employed people living next door to me, rather than an unemployed and desparate middle class slipping into destitution, despondency, and ultimately depression. There are two models of Oddessy batteries that are made in the UK (England)... the very smallest, and the very largest. Neither of those two sizes properly fit a Ford truck of any type, so you can be assured that any Odyessey battery you buy for your Ford (or Chevy or Dodge) will be Made in USA. Fourth of all, the Sears Die Hard Platinum P4 is an Odyssey battery. Make sure that it isn't just a "Die Hard" nor a "Die Hard Gold." It must be a PLATINUM. The batteries are identical electrically and in construction. The only difference is the color of the plastic case and the label. I re-verified this fact today by calling two different departments at Enersys. You can read the announcement of this distribution deal here: News Release= Fifth of all, OPTIMA brand batteries, that are now made exclusively off shore or over the border, have gone downhill for YEARS. Maybe the guy that used to work for them will get his tongue gouged out for spilling the beans, but I don't have any relationship with ANY battery company, so I'm not afraid to speak. Unlike Odyssey, which uses pure virgin lead, Optimas at some point reportedly began using recycled lead. I don't know if this began when JCI (Johnson Controls) took over in 2000, or when that Swedish company bought Optima back in 1994 or so. Recycled lead doesn't hold up like virgin pure lead. But it sure costs less. Up until at least 1993, Optima's were using pure lead, and they were the best battery available at the time. The technology spiracell used in Optima batteries was protected by patent, and that patent was owned by a subsidiary of the Gates Corporation, which invented this battery back in 1967. This same group, through a series of sales, acquisitons, and spin-offs is now part of Enersys Corporation, as the Odyessy group. The Optima brand was sold twice, and the brand that made a solid name for itself in the '70's, and even more so in the '80s, was leveraged by each buyer to capitalize on the consumer's awareness and perception of quality, with cost cutting measures to generate more profits. The end result is what we have today... the Optima battery that still enjoys a lingering "mystique" of being "the best", while suffering the malignment of being built like the worst. The Optima's former stellar reputation has been supplanted by stone cold reality. Optima's are NOT the best. They are a sucker's battery, riding on a tailwind of an illustrious past, and not worth the price they fetch at Sam's Club, much less the premium they charge at the speed shops. Finally, that Kinetik brand? They are a marketing company. They don't manufacture anything. I recognized one of their power supplies as the same powersupply for the 12V converter/powersupply that my motorhome came equiped with 10 years ago. I know Kinetik doesn't make that powersupply, because I've had to call the real manufacture when I wanted to upgrade a charge control circuit to my motorhome. As for the Kinetik batteries, they are not capacitor banks. They are Absorbed Glass Mat batteries. Only they are reportedly manufactured in China, by a private labeler called B&B. That information came from an insider in the industry whom I called today as a result of this thread. It has not been verified by me. And I'm not flying to China to do so. Want a good quality, USA made, spillproof, maintenance free, high ampacity, 4 year guaranteed replacement, 2 year non-charged shelf life battery that is manufactured by the same USA company that supplies batteries to our Miltitary Aircraft and tactical vehicles? Try looking here: EnerSys Home
 
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Old Feb 26, 2019 | 08:26 AM
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After our battery charger quit working, we bought a Black & Decker BC15BD. It has a "recondition" feature. At first this charger didn't seem to work, but I read an article that said if the battery to be charged is less than 10.5 volts, a good fresh battery must be first in line to charge, with the weak battery hooked up in parallel to it. I did this and it "fooled" the charger into charging the weak battery so I could "recondition" it afterward. This works, but it is a pain. The charger has paid for itself in the batteries it has saved.
Odyssey batteries? OMG I thought Optimas were expensive. However, this is probably the correct price if this battery is everything it is reported to be.
Also, when my alternator failed, we sent it to Turbo & Electric in Phoenix for a rebuild. They use quality parts vs off the shelf rebuild. Does cost more though, but I have peace of mind.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2019 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Lisa Bunch
After our battery charger quit working, we bought a Black & Decker BC15BD. It has a "recondition" feature. At first this charger didn't seem to work, but I read an article that said if the battery to be charged is less than 10.5 volts, a good fresh battery must be first in line to charge, with the weak battery hooked up in parallel to it. I did this and it "fooled" the charger into charging the weak battery so I could "recondition" it afterward. This works, but it is a pain. The charger has paid for itself in the batteries it has saved.
Odyssey batteries? OMG I thought Optimas were expensive. However, this is probably the correct price if this battery is everything it is reported to be.
Also, when my alternator failed, we sent it to Turbo & Electric in Phoenix for a rebuild. They use quality parts vs off the shelf rebuild. Does cost more though, but I have peace of mind.
alternators, I do a couple things...
I replace the failed diode or the regulator, and i might buy one at the junkyard for $20. The one I have on our rover now had 3,000 miles on it. The receipt for the alternator change was in the glovebox with the mileage on it. I opened the hood and said...yes, that's new. The receipt in the glovebox was the icing on the cake.

Batteries however, I buy new. Usually its whoever has a deal at the time. I wont pay anywhere near $150 for a battery.
 
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