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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 06:25 AM
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Default Newbie with a sick engine

I have just returned home with a 95 Disco that I bought to fix up.

Problems are:
Runs poorly on about 7 cylinders.
Will not start when hot.
Clutch hydraulics need repair
Broken door handle
Bad front seat cushions
No radio....modified wiring.

I am going to check compression and do a general cleanup first.

Where is a good place to buy parts like Plug wires, Dist cap, Clutch master and slave cylinders?
Any good places in the S E where I can find some decent seats?

Any idea why it will not start when hot?

How can I make those door handles/arm rests more comfortable!!

Any tips and pointers would be appreciated.

thanks
 
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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Default RE: Newbie with a sick engine

Call me, have alot of answers for your questions.
Mike
303-862-7680
 
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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Default RE: Newbie with a sick engine

duct tape marshmallows to the door handle. It will be soft then....

Seriously, call Mike. He can walk you through what to fix and it will be a lot easier than going back and forth. He can point you in the right direction to get a good deal on parts too....
 
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Old Jul 27, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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ORIGINAL: piper109

I have just returned home with a 95 Disco that I bought to fix up.

Problems are:
Runs poorly on about 7 cylinders.
Will not start when hot.
Clutch hydraulics need repair
Broken door handle
Bad front seat cushions
No radio....modified wiring.

I am going to check compression and do a general cleanup first.

Where is a good place to buy parts like Plug wires, Dist cap, Clutch master and slave cylinders?
Any good places in the S E where I can find some decent seats?

Any idea why it will not start when hot?

How can I make those door handles/arm rests more comfortable!!

Any tips and pointers would be appreciated.

thanks
Engine Fault Codes
Note: This information is for the 4.0 liter V-8 OBD I (On Board Diagnostics, phase I) Petrol engine that is found in the US. The information may hold for other markets and engines, but we cannot confirm this. It may also be true for Defenders and Range Rovers with the same engine. Again we don't know.

NAS Discoveries have a digital readout for diagnostics. It is a black plastic box measuring approximately 1" x 2.5" x 3" with a red LED readout. It is found under the passenger seat facing backwards. It may be unclipped and moved so that the driver can see it.

This doesn't give nearly as detailed readout at the official test box, but it's better than nothing.

Fault Codes
Jump directly to the fault code:
02 12 14 17 18 19 21 23 25 28 29 34 36 40 44 45 48 50 58 59 68 69 88

General:

* The fault codes are given in order of priority. If more than fault exists, you have to clear the display before the next fault code can be displayed.
* Fault code 02 meas that the ECU has just been reconnected. Switch on the ignition to clear the display.

Clearing the display

1. Switch ignition on.
2. Disconnect serial link mating plug, wait 5 seconds, then reconnect.
3. Switch ignition off, wait for main relay to drop out.
4. Switch ignition on. The display should now be reset. If there are other faults, the next one will be displayed. Otherwise the display will be black
5. If there is more than one fault repeat steps 1 to 4, to clear each fault until the display is blank.

No LED's are on:

Good news; nothing is wrong. Either that or Mr. Lucas has struck and either the LEDs are burned out or the display isn't getting any power.



Code 29 - ECU memory check

If detected all other faults are unreliable and must be ignored.
Procedure:
1. leave battery connected
2. switch ignition off
3. wait for approximately 5 seconds
4. disconnect ECU plug.
5. reconnect ECU plug
6. switch ignition on and check display unit.
If fault code 29 is detected again, swap out the ECU for another one and retest.


Code 44 - Lambda sensor A - left bank
Code 45 - Lambda sensor B - right bank

If one of these fault codes is displayed check the wiring to that particular lambda sensor.

If both codes are displayed, the voltage supply to the heater coils of the sensors must be checked. Refer to test 26, continuity test procedure.


Code 25 - Ignition misfire

This code indicates that an ignition system misfire has been detected. Codes 40 or 50 indicate on which bank the misfire has occurred.


Code 40 - Misfire bank A - left bank
Code 50 - Misfire bank B - right bank

If both codes are displayed, check the following components common to both banks:
Distributor cap
Rotor arm
Coil
Electrical connections
Pick-up (air gap)
Amplifier
Injectors (if code 34 or 36 is displayed)
If either fault code 40 or 50 is displayed check components applicable to the particular bank that the misfire has occurred on.
Spark plugs
HT leads
Distributor cap
Injectors - if code 34 bank A or 36 bank B displayed


Code 12 - Airflow meter
Refer to test 19, continuity test procedure.

Code 21 - fuel tune select

Identifies that the tune select resistor is open circuit- refer to tune select resistor test.


Code 34 - Injector bank A

The display will indicate if the injector(s) are causing the engine to run rich or lean.

If the bank is running rich, check for - faulty injector wiring and connectors, stuck open injectors.

If the bank is running lean, check for - faulty injector wiring and connectors, blocked injectors.


Code 36 - Injector bank B
As code 34, except relevant to bank A injectors.

Code 14 - Coolant thermistor
Refer to test 14, continuity test procedure.

Code 17 - Throttle potentiometer
Refer to test 17, continuity test procedure.

Code 18 - Throttle potentiometer input high/airflow meter low
refer to tests 17, 18, and 19 of the continuity test procedure.

Code 19 - Throttle potentiometer input low/airflow meter high
refer to tests 17, 18, and 19 of the continuity test procedure.

Code 88 - Purge valve leak
refer to test 9 and 10 of the continuity test procedure.

Code 28 - Air leak

check for air leaks in the following areas:
o Hose, air flow meter to plenum
o Breather system hoses to plenum
o Brake servo hose
o Vacuum reservoir hose (fresh air solenoid)
o Distributor vacuum advance
o Hose, purge valve to plenum
o Injector seals
o Joint - bypass air valve to plenum plenum chamber to ram housing ram housing to inlet manifold inlet manifold to cylinder head bypass air valve hose


Code 23 - Fuel supply
check fuel system pressure, test 20 of continuity test procedure.

Code 48 - Stepper motor

check base idle speed- see setting procedure. Refer to tests 15 and 16 of continuity test procedure. Check road speed sensor- refer to test 25 of continuity test procedure.


Code 68 - Road speed sensor
refer to test 25 of continuity test procedure.

Code 69 Gearswitch
refer to test 24 of continuity test procedure.

Code 58 Group faults 23/28

This indicates that a fault has been registered that is caused by the fuel supply or an air leak but the exact fault cannot be identified. Check all items outlined under codes 23 and 28.


Code 59 Fuel thermistor
Refer to test 13 of the continuity test procedure.


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Old Jul 28, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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I have done a bit of checking on this sick engine. Compression ranges from 119- 135 so weak all round. If I rev the engine after starting, it smokes profusely but it clears up a bit. Oil use is heavy and obviously power is down.
My guess is that the rings are bad and this probably means the heads need rebuilding also.

I am looking for a good 3.9 long block and perhaps I will swap them out rather than rebuild this one. I am still doing sums to see if I want to rebuild it. It will probably depend on the condition of the bores. Engine runs quietly with only a minimum of valve noise.

What is the difference between the 3.9 and the 4.0 ? Can a 4.0 be used instead if I use the present plenum and injector rails?

Thanks
 
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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Default RE: Newbie with a sick engine

Not sure how far SE you are? But www.rovercannibal.comin OKC may have some ½decent seats laying around? Something like seats I'd want to see in person though before buying. I got some used body parts from there and they were cheaper than anyone else at the time.
 
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