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P0102 + P1884 on start up

Old Dec 11, 2017 | 03:18 PM
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As soon as I start up the engine I get these two codes. Is there a link between the two? Are the wires bundled together and possibly have a short? I just replaced the MAF sensor a week ago because it was on the list of replacements, but I've had this problem before then so I'm reasonably sure it isn't the new MAF.


P1884

P0102 - Low input on Mass Air flow sensor


Disco Mike is quoted as saying "The one thing I have always found is it, 1884, always show up with another fault code and if you fix the other code, the 1884 goes away."


So my guess is that if I can fix the low input on the air flow sensor the 1884 may go away.


Any thoughts?

Side Note: This all happened at the same time my ultra gauge stopped showing engine temp, avg mpg, and other metrics. Is this related?
 
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 03:22 PM
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What is the part number on the new MAF and easy check...put the old MAF back and see if the codes/ issues come back
 
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 03:40 PM
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Not sure if this is the part number, but I ordered it from British Parts of Utah and the product code is MHK100800. It's the Bosch one that fits the 2004 Disco II so I know the part is right.

Also, I had this problem with the old MAF too. I was hoping that it would go away when I got the new one, but no such luck.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 03:53 PM
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Can you check the wires going to the MAF and clean the MAF plug?

I checked the MAF and because you said it came from British Parts of Utah I am assuming it is legit and not a knock off.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 04:01 PM
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What am I looking for with the wires? Fraying and such? And how do I clean them? I have the MAF cleaner spray would that work?

I'll check the part number when I go out to check the wires, but the part was a Bosch part so it better be legit.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 06:30 PM
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Definitely check the wires as far back as you can trace them and clean the contacts with the cleaner you have and q tips or something that you can get in there.

If you have any type of voltage reader (i.e. multimeter) use the below.

From the RAVE Manual

Mass Air Flow (MAF)/ Inlet Air Temperature (IAT) sensor (C0149)
The MAF/ IAT sensors are combined into a single unit and located between the air filter housing and the inlet manifold.
The ECM receives input signals from the MAF/ IAT sensor to calculate the mass of air flowing into the engine inlet
manifold.
Input/Output
The MAF sensor has both electrical input and output. Input to the MAF sensor comes from two different sources.
Battery voltage is supplied to the MAF sensor via fuse 2 of the engine compartment fuse box. The MAF sensor also
utilises a 5 volt reference input via pin 7 of connector C0636 of the ECM. The MAF sensor output voltage is measured
via pin 23 of connector C0636 of the ECM.
The IAT sensor has only electrical output. Output from the IAT sensor is measured at pin 34 of connector C0636 of
the ECM, this is a variable voltage/ resistance measured by the sensor to provide air temperature information to the
ECM.
The MAF/ IAT sensor share the same sensor earth. Sensor earth is via pin 9 of connector C0636 of the ECM.
The MAF/ IAT sensor and its connector has silver plated terminals for its low current signals to protect against
corrosion. DO NOT apply 12V to the 5V supply, as this will destroy the internal circuitry. The MAF/IAT sensor should
not be dropped or roughly handled and should be kept free from contamination.

ENGINE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM - V8
18-2-10 DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION
Connector 3 (C0636): This connector contains 52 pins and is used for most sensor and actuator inputs and outputs.
Sensor and actuator control is vital to ensure that the ECM maintains adaptive strategy
Pin out details connector C0636
Pin No. Function Signal type Reading
1 Injector cylinder number 2 Output Switch to earth
2 Injector cylinder number 5 Output Switch to earth
3 Purge valve Output, signal PWM 12-0V
4 SAI vacuum solenoid valve (NAS vehicles from 2000MY
only)
Output Switch to earth
5 Not used - -
6 Fuel tank pressure sensor (NAS vehicles with vacuum type,
EVAP system leak detection only)
Earth 0V
7 MAF sensor 5V supply Output, reference 5V
8 Not used - -
9 MAF sensor earth Earth 0V
10 TP sensor 5V supply Output, reference 5V
11 Not used - -
12 Not used - -
13 Not used - -
14 Injector cylinder number 7 Output Switch to earth
15 Injector cylinder number 6 Output Switch to earth
16 SAI pump relay (NAS vehicles from 2000MY only) Output Switch to earth
17 CMP sensor Earth 0V
18 Low range switch (manual transmission only) Input, signal Active low
19 Not used - -
20 CMP signal Input, signal Digital switch 0-12V
21 ECT sensor Earth 0V
22 Coolant temperature signal Input, signal Analogue 0-5V
23 MAF sensor signal Input, signal Analogue 0-5V
24 TP sensor signal Input, signal Analogue 0-5V
25 TP sensor earth Earth 0V
26 Not used - -
27 Injector cylinder number 3 Output Switch to earth
28 Injector cylinder number 8 Output Switch to earth
29 Hill decent control output Output, signal PWM 0-12V
30 EVAP canister vent solenoid (CVS) valve (NAS vehicles with
vacuum type, EVAP system leak detection only)
Output Switch to earth
30 Leak detection pump solenoid (NAS vehicles with positive
pressure type, EVAP system leak detection only)
Output Switch to earth
31 A/C condenser fan Output Switch to earth
32 CKP sensor signal Input, signal Analogue, 0-300V peak
33 Not used - -
34 IAT sensor signal Input, signal Analogue 0-5V
35 KS, RH bank earth Earth 0V
36 KS, RH bank signal Input, signal Analogue
37 Not used - -
38 Not used - -
39 Not used - -
40 Injector cylinder number 4 Output Switch to earth
41 Injector cylinder number 1 Output Switch to earth
42 Idle air control valve open Output, signal PWM 12-0V
43 Idle air control valve close Output, signal PWM 12-0V
44 ECT sensor signal Output, signal PWM 0-12V
 
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