Discovery II Talk about the Land Rover Discovery II within.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

P0308 Cylinder 8 Misfire - New Plugs & Wires

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 5, 2021 | 02:47 PM
  #1  
sdtimb's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Three Wheeling
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 80
Likes: 45
From: Oceanside, CA
Question P0308 Cylinder 8 Misfire - New Plugs & Wires

Truck had been running strong for months. Last weekend I got a P308 - Cylinder 8 misfire detected. Yesterday, I replaced the spark plugs and installed a new set of Kingsborne 8mm spark plug wires. After the repair, the truck fired right up and ran fine on a short test drive. However, took it out today and codes came back after ~9 miles of driving. Service Engine Soon light flashes periodically then stays on. Engine has a noticeable miss / power degradation.

P0300 - Random/multiple cylinder misfire detected
P0308 - Cylinder 8 misfire detected
P0327 - Knock/combustion vibration sensor 'A' circuit low

During the repair I tested cylinder 8 injector with a 9v battery and it seemed to be working (could hear a click and fuel flowing from residual pressure). I replaced the head gasket and had the heads rebuild about a year ago (+/- 1,000 miles).

Should I replace the coil packs and/or injectors, or is there another logical troubleshooting path before pulling the intake and throwing more parts at the beast?
​​
 
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2021 | 05:05 AM
  #2  
matt3502's Avatar
Winching
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 745
Likes: 141
From: Fairfield County, CT
Default

I would start with ensuring that all your new wires are fully seated on the coil packs. When I did mine, It started up just fine but not too long after start up I got similar messages your getting. Went back a and checked seating on coil and the one acting crazy was not properly seated.
 
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2021 | 08:23 AM
  #3  
mln01's Avatar
Camel Trophy
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,882
Likes: 950
From: Charlotte
Default

It's possible the misfire is not caused by an ignition system problem, especially since the misfire returned on the same cylinder. A coolant leak into a cylinder can cause a misfire. When you pulled the old spark plugs did the plug from number 8 look different than the others? Was it, for example, noticeably cleaner than the other seven?
 
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2021 | 10:32 AM
  #4  
sdtimb's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Three Wheeling
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 80
Likes: 45
From: Oceanside, CA
Default

Originally Posted by mln01
It's possible the misfire is not caused by an ignition system problem, especially since the misfire returned on the same cylinder. A coolant leak into a cylinder can cause a misfire. When you pulled the old spark plugs did the plug from number 8 look different than the others? Was it, for example, noticeably cleaner than the other seven?
I pulled #4 and #8, they looked nearly identical (I will check a couple from the opposite bank). I'll add a coolant system pressure test to my list of things to check. Thanks.

 

Last edited by sdtimb; Jun 6, 2021 at 10:35 AM.
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2021 | 07:19 PM
  #5  
Extinct's Avatar
Baja
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 5,261
Likes: 1,809
From: Lynchburg VA
Default

The process of elimination using known good parts is always a solid troubleshooting process. Swap #8 plug with a different one (not #2) to start, then the injector if that does not work.
 
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2021 | 10:58 PM
  #6  
sdtimb's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Three Wheeling
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 80
Likes: 45
From: Oceanside, CA
Default

Finally had a chance to pick up a compression tester and coolant system pressure tester (loaners from Autozone). Looks like the misfire may be the result of a coolant leak. Here is what I found.

Compression test looked good
1 - 150 -- 2 - 155
3 - 150 -- 4 - 160
5 - 155 -- 6 - 150
7 - 160 -- 8 - 155 (cyl w/ misfire)

Coolant system pressure tests
1st test: 10 psi, very slowly dropped 2-3 psi over ~45 mins - fail
2nd test: 15 psi, immediately started dropping 2-3 pst after a couple minutes - fail
3rd test: 15 psi with throttle body lines looped together, held pressure for 10 minutes without any drop! - pass

I'll get everything back together tomorrow and take it for a test drive. HOPEFULLY the throttle body coolant leak was the culprit. I'll post the results.
 

Last edited by sdtimb; Jun 7, 2021 at 11:02 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2021 | 11:03 PM
  #7  
Best4x4's Avatar
Super Moderator
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 7,983
Likes: 2,496
From: Beaumont, TX
Default

Those TBH plates constantly leak or will leak. **** poor design IMHO and I bypass em all vs fry a perfectly good engine from it slowly bleeding itself to death.
 
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2021 | 11:31 PM
  #8  
sdtimb's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Three Wheeling
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 80
Likes: 45
From: Oceanside, CA
Default

Originally Posted by Best4x4
Those TBH plates constantly leak or will leak. **** poor design IMHO and I bypass em all vs fry a perfectly good engine from it slowly bleeding itself to death.
The plan is to leave it bypassed. I live in San Diego so there's zero need to heat the TB. If I end up somewhere below freezing I'll let it heat up for a few minutes before driving.
 
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2021 | 12:03 AM
  #9  
Best4x4's Avatar
Super Moderator
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 7,983
Likes: 2,496
From: Beaumont, TX
Default

People have mixed idea's on them, but the fact remains a lot of vehicles from Jeeps to Hummers = DO NOT have TBH's and plenty of them are in Canada, Alaska, or all over the world with zero issues. Is it a bad idea? No, but it was poorly executed on the Bosch platform, and can cause way more harm than good. 14CUX/GEMS = much much better design with a much stronger gasket/bolt design. I know plenty of people with Jeeps & Hummers up north and zero issues. However I can't count how many LR's have slowly bleed to death and been scraped due to the TBH slowly leaking. I'll take my 1,000,000,000 to 1 chance of it freezing up vs knowing it will leak n slowly guaranteed.....
 
Reply
Old Jun 8, 2021 | 03:53 PM
  #10  
sdtimb's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Three Wheeling
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 80
Likes: 45
From: Oceanside, CA
Default

Well...this sucks. Got the bastard back together and took it for a spin around the block. I'm still getting a P308 - Cylinder 8 misfire detected code. This is getting annoying.

I guess a new coil pack and set of injectors are up next...
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:21 PM.