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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 07:50 AM
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I went with the ARP studs and recommend them, however, ARP listed only 70 ft pounds of torque for our 4.6 motors, whereas the Atlantic youtube video used 85 ft pounds on them.

i used their precision torque grease and installed them at 81 ft pounds. My gut feel was that 85 ft pounds was too close to the limits of the aluminum block threads.

No problems at 81. JB Weld on a head?! Ummm...
JB weld just where the Head mates to the valve cover gasket in one small place. There is an indentation. I appreciated him not selling me an expensive fix.

What is your thought process going to 81? L8 said 80, AB 85 and ARP 70. I’m leaning towards ARP’s 70
 
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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 07:51 AM
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Seconding headers.
man, if there were shorty headers I would do it, but the headers are for when I learn to weld.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 10:09 AM
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P38 came stock with "tubular manifolds" aka shorty headers. I looked into using a set at one point but ioted for the long tubes. Just an idea, that may not be your perfect solution.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by No Doubt
JB Weld on a head?! Ummm...
Not all that uncommon. Mopar guys totally fill their push rod a intake manifold bolt holes with epoxy so they can re-drill them at an offset so they can port their heads out bigger.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex_M
P38 came stock with "tubular manifolds" aka shorty headers. I looked into using a set at one point but ioted for the long tubes. Just an idea, that may not be your perfect solution.
Great thought, but I looked them up and unfortunately I don’t have the facilities to fab them in.
 

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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 07:57 PM
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What is your thought process going to 81? L8 said 80, AB 85 and ARP 70. I’m leaning towards ARP’s 70
Oh, nothing scientific! I was probably thinking "75 ft pounds is factory for head bolts" and that "85 ft pounds that Atlantic British did in the youtube video for ARP studs was near the thread limits" and then just picked something roughly in between those 2 values.



As in, I didn't have the guts to go to 85 ft pounds, just bein' honest.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by No Doubt
Oh, nothing scientific! I was probably thinking "75 ft pounds is factory for head bolts" and that "85 ft pounds that Atlantic British did in the youtube video for ARP studs was near the thread limits" and then just picked something roughly in between those 2 values.



As in, I didn't have the guts to go to 85 ft pounds, just bein' honest.
I’m not going to 85!
 
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Old Apr 30, 2018 | 08:34 AM
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I did find some short headers in Australia, ASI Performance and have an email to see if they will first fit, and second deliver to US.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2018 | 10:25 AM
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I know I have seen D2 shorty headers that supposedly bolt in, and they were around $480.
I put them on my long "to-do" list.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2018 | 10:36 AM
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I know I have seen D2 shorty headers that supposedly bolt in, and they were around $480.
I put them on my long "to-do" list.
That is way too much money for short headers. The ones from Australia are less, but I do not believe they ship to the US. Two of the boltholes on my manifolds are totally buggered, but I will probably put them back on.
 
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