I'm in need of a front bumper, not in the market yet, but have been looking high and low. I like the look and price of the TJM, 2nd place would be the Custom 4x4 that Dusty links to, but I'm not too happy with the taper at the ends of the C4x4- would prefer a more boxy look. Anyway, I believe I've read that a couple of members tried to find a front recovery point with a TJM mounted and could not do so. Is the TJM sturdy enough to have some d-ring mounts welded or bolted on to it?

 

I would say you have two options, save your money and get a good one the first time,, or buy the TJM and weld gussets into it. The TJM is half the price for a reason IMO

 

I'm going to go with the C4x4 bumper later this year. I like the way it looks and he's only 1.5 hrs from me so I wouldn't have to deal with shipping.

 

I cant find that thing... I saw a few under google that looked like TF bumpers, is that the one?

 

Cool. I like those. Close is why I suggested to James.
I bought one from him and later somewhat duplicated it because I liked it and had access to that one. It is on prior disco that I went to a friend. So that made it easy.
It is a solid product.

 

If you put the winch tray on the TJM then you can install recovery points. The bumper is not designed to have recovery points on it. The winch tray mounts to the frame. I just purchased the TJM but yet to get the Winch Tray.

 

Also can't beat the price. $600 shipped from Lucky8.

 

Most of the latest front bumpers from companies like ARB and TJM are airbag-compatible for product liability reasons. Bumpers like the TJM T15 Winch Bar shown above cannot properly accept recovery points mounted to the blade. Doing so could compromise the crush cans on this bumper. It is for these types of applications that the Safety Tow Hooks are ideal because the Safety Tow Hooks are so small. Look closely at this Discovery Series II. There are two Safety Tow Hooks to this T15's winch tray.
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probably the cleanest bumper out there, has winch tray, swivel recovery points, and washer bollte protection:

Terrafirma Discovery 2 winch bumper | Bumpers - Winch Bumpers Accessories for Land Rover Vehicles

 

That is a pretty sexy bumper.