State of the Disco - where we at on long term plays?
#11
If anything, mint condition 04s will be the most valuable as they're the last model year and the most sought after. But I seriously doubt they'll ever fetch 80k or something like that. I seem them peaking at 30-40k for a mint one in the years to come. NAS defenders are also valuable in the US as they're easier to insure, they all came with US titles so you can insure them in any state without an issue compared to an imported one which has to go through inspections and regulations and whatnot. They also came with the V8 and the last model year came with an automatic, plus collectors like scarcity, it doesn't matter if the truck sucks or is worse than a comparable discovery or p38.
#12
No, they aren’t correct. 7000 in all. But my point still holds water. Because NAS Defenders were scarce from the beginning enthusiasts cared about them (demand). Enthusiast never cared about P38’s because they were everywhere, they may not be today but that doesn’t really matter because people still don’t care( no demand).
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#13
Discos values have already bottomed and headed up. Lots have been crushed due to the legendary engine issues. Used to be 2-3 in every upullit yard in SC/NC 5-10 years ago, now very rare they get one. I think less than half of the original production are still on the road and at least half of those are in loving hands. As someone said clapped out trash will always be clapped out trash, but lots of people now value them for the future classics they are. Jeep made a ton of CJ's and Wagoneers, Toyota made a ton of Land Cruisers and FJ's and they are now increasing in value. Good restored examples of D2s are $15-20 now, going up. Believe it or not there are some people for whom the D2 are a dream vehicle (some people were too young to ever see a NAS Defender) and with NAS Defenders going to the moon the D2 will be the affordable classic. My forecast will be a 5-10 increase in value per year from here, take care of the ones you have! Good ones will be harder and harder to come by due to the rusting frames on the midwestern/NE ones.
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#14
Big time agreed with @Extinct Anecdotally, same, the junk yard here used to reliably have at least one disco at all times any time I needed a part. It was so consistent that I didn't feel much need to keep a stash of rare spare parts (headlights, etc). Now though, I think they got just one last year and there still has yet to be a disco appearance for 2024. Scarcity is a big part of the value equation and if junkyards are one conduit for measuring it, they're getting scarce quickly.
Popularity and vitality are sort of the other part of the value equation and yeah, that definitely hasn't happened in the same way it has with the Defender. But it can happen in an instant and unpredictably. Just takes an appearance in the right film, the right celebrity's garage, etc.
I would never buy a Disco as an investment. And TBH I don't know if prices could ever get high enough to consider selling ours. But it's a fun experiment to at least argue a bit about where the Disco market currently stands. Always fun seeing vehicles that were once massed produced and relegated to the more disposable part of the spectrum get adopted by enthusiast groups and cared for.
If that ever happens at scale to the Disco, I wouldn't hate having some NLA items reproduced again due to demand.
Popularity and vitality are sort of the other part of the value equation and yeah, that definitely hasn't happened in the same way it has with the Defender. But it can happen in an instant and unpredictably. Just takes an appearance in the right film, the right celebrity's garage, etc.
I would never buy a Disco as an investment. And TBH I don't know if prices could ever get high enough to consider selling ours. But it's a fun experiment to at least argue a bit about where the Disco market currently stands. Always fun seeing vehicles that were once massed produced and relegated to the more disposable part of the spectrum get adopted by enthusiast groups and cared for.
If that ever happens at scale to the Disco, I wouldn't hate having some NLA items reproduced again due to demand.
#15
The amount of NLA plastics for the disco make it such a tough truck to restore fully imo. But maybe one day they'll be worth a ton or something. LCs while plentiful, are much more limited in numbers compared to the rest of the yota lineup. Plus a lot of them get abused and destroyed doing off road stuff or salt belt dailys. You don't see many modded ones (maybe except during covid) go for big money. Its mostly low mile, stock examples which are few and far between these days. Much like discos in that regard too though I suppose.
#16
Discos values have already bottomed and headed up. Lots have been crushed due to the legendary engine issues. Used to be 2-3 in every upullit yard in SC/NC 5-10 years ago, now very rare they get one. I think less than half of the original production are still on the road and at least half of those are in loving hands. As someone said clapped out trash will always be clapped out trash, but lots of people now value them for the future classics they are. Jeep made a ton of CJ's and Wagoneers, Toyota made a ton of Land Cruisers and FJ's and they are now increasing in value. Good restored examples of D2s are $15-20 now, going up. Believe it or not there are some people for whom the D2 are a dream vehicle (some people were too young to ever see a NAS Defender) and with NAS Defenders going to the moon the D2 will be the affordable classic. My forecast will be a 5-10 increase in value per year from here, take care of the ones you have! Good ones will be harder and harder to come by due to the rusting frames on the midwestern/NE ones.
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Discos values have already bottomed and headed up. Lots have been crushed due to the legendary engine issues. Used to be 2-3 in every upullit yard in SC/NC 5-10 years ago, now very rare they get one. I think less than half of the original production are still on the road and at least half of those are in loving hands. As someone said clapped out trash will always be clapped out trash, but lots of people now value them for the future classics they are. Jeep made a ton of CJ's and Wagoneers, Toyota made a ton of Land Cruisers and FJ's and they are now increasing in value. Good restored examples of D2s are $15-20 now, going up. Believe it or not there are some people for whom the D2 are a dream vehicle (some people were too young to ever see a NAS Defender) and with NAS Defenders going to the moon the D2 will be the affordable classic. My forecast will be a 5-10 increase in value per year from here, take care of the ones you have! Good ones will be harder and harder to come by due to the rusting frames on the midwestern/NE ones.
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