tapping noise - not slipped liner?
#21
I already said I didn't, but it's common sense that this could damage the engine. It's just not worth the risk to me and I figure I'd allow the original poster to make up their own mind.
The only way short of pulling a head, sure,and I didn't make it up. It's something I've heard from several reputable sources I've talked to who have plenty more experience than I do. It's great you've never damaged an engine doing the test that way, but that doesn't mean you never will and it doesn't mean nobody has.
The only way short of pulling a head, sure,and I didn't make it up. It's something I've heard from several reputable sources I've talked to who have plenty more experience than I do. It's great you've never damaged an engine doing the test that way, but that doesn't mean you never will and it doesn't mean nobody has.
You have heard from several reputable sources that its a bad idea to spray the block with water, they have more experience than you. Ok, Do they have more experience than me? Did they give you examples of cracked blocks? Did they show you? Any proof at all? What are their names? Where do they work?
#22
#23
You threw a ton of parts at your engine trying to fix your loose sleeve noise, then tell this guy that the only way to DIAGNOSE his problem is a bad idea. You can pull the heads and still not be able to tell if it has a lose sleeve, I have done it plenty of times.
You have heard from several reputable sources that its a bad idea to spray the block with water, they have more experience than you. Ok, Do they have more experience than me? Did they give you examples of cracked blocks? Did they show you? Any proof at all? What are their names? Where do they work?
You have heard from several reputable sources that its a bad idea to spray the block with water, they have more experience than you. Ok, Do they have more experience than me? Did they give you examples of cracked blocks? Did they show you? Any proof at all? What are their names? Where do they work?
And no, they did not, I simply took their word because I trust them. And there is NO way in h*ll I'm posting their names and places of work in an open forum or giving them to a man who is being so adamant that they are absolutely wrong.
We obviously disagree and we are not going to change each other's minds, so I see no point in further argument on the issue.
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#25
You threw a ton of parts at your engine trying to fix your loose sleeve noise, then tell this guy that the only way to DIAGNOSE his problem is a bad idea. You can pull the heads and still not be able to tell if it has a lose sleeve, I have done it plenty of times.
You have heard from several reputable sources that its a bad idea to spray the block with water, they have more experience than you. Ok, Do they have more experience than me? Did they give you examples of cracked blocks? Did they show you? Any proof at all? What are their names? Where do they work?
You have heard from several reputable sources that its a bad idea to spray the block with water, they have more experience than you. Ok, Do they have more experience than me? Did they give you examples of cracked blocks? Did they show you? Any proof at all? What are their names? Where do they work?
I feel like this is something that an expert in chemistry or a metal worker would be more qualified to address, not so much a mechanic.
#26
Not so. I threw lifters at my block because of the noise, a cam because mine was worn and I wanted to, and the rest because my head gaskets had blown.
And no, they did not, I simply took their word because I trust them. And there is NO way in h*ll I'm posting their names and places of work in an open forum or giving them to a man who is being so adamant that they are absolutely wrong.
We obviously disagree and we are not going to change each other's minds, so I see no point in further argument on the issue.
And no, they did not, I simply took their word because I trust them. And there is NO way in h*ll I'm posting their names and places of work in an open forum or giving them to a man who is being so adamant that they are absolutely wrong.
We obviously disagree and we are not going to change each other's minds, so I see no point in further argument on the issue.
I really don't care what you think, you could think the world is flat, I'm not trying to change your mind, Just don't tell other people not to take diagnostic steps because your feelings deep inside your heart next to the little gnomes in the woods tell you not to spray water on your block. Cause' you're wrong, and your invisible nameless experts are wrong.
#27
To be fair what proof do you have that using a garden hose on the engine will not result in a crack in the block or any other issues immediately or down the road?
I feel like this is something that an expert in chemistry or a metal worker would be more qualified to address, not so much a mechanic.
I feel like this is something that an expert in chemistry or a metal worker would be more qualified to address, not so much a mechanic.
Last edited by RoverMasterTech; 03-10-2015 at 01:51 PM.
#29
i will go on the record here just so we can continue this spirited conversation.
I have absolutely no doubt that thermal shock can crack a head or block, especially if it has little micro fissures or weak areas. plenty of engineering studies on thermal shock....here's one http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...VsvAQ6mCF6TybQ i have busted a manifold that way (in a water crossing) of course that is cast iron. i have had fresh welded aluminum crack from cooling too fast, that's the reason for slow cooling in a sand bath. (i got in a hurry and dunked it)
i also highly doubt a block will crack with a garden hose treatment, but it is a possibility. it is one of those "possible not probable" deals. and if you can play the odds.......i say go for it. also I am curious as to what if a shop hosed my block and it was the one in a (whatever number) to crack.....do i get hosed, too?
I have absolutely no doubt that thermal shock can crack a head or block, especially if it has little micro fissures or weak areas. plenty of engineering studies on thermal shock....here's one http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...VsvAQ6mCF6TybQ i have busted a manifold that way (in a water crossing) of course that is cast iron. i have had fresh welded aluminum crack from cooling too fast, that's the reason for slow cooling in a sand bath. (i got in a hurry and dunked it)
i also highly doubt a block will crack with a garden hose treatment, but it is a possibility. it is one of those "possible not probable" deals. and if you can play the odds.......i say go for it. also I am curious as to what if a shop hosed my block and it was the one in a (whatever number) to crack.....do i get hosed, too?
Last edited by dusty1; 03-10-2015 at 02:06 PM.