Arm is still bolted in, how can it move independently? I'd have to see it in person(rare) while working(rarer).

 

Would be very interesting to see the differences in handling and offroad capability between two D2's. Both stock. One with ACE and SLS and the other without. I'd like to see them both perform the 35mph corner test. High speed stop test. and general offroading. lt would also be interesting to see the ACE in action up close, by fitting a camera below the truck on the frame.


ZGPhoto: I respect your views a lot and look up to you, but I have to ask... have you ever driven a ACE Disco? Have you ever tested a Disco with ACE and SLS offroad? I have not, which is why I'm not quick to overestimate the potential of those features. All I can say is that LR claims both features improve on and offroad capabilities. Of course the potential of these features can be easily overshadowed when you add lifts, over sized tires, lockers and start tearing out suspension componets. For the sack of a stock D2, is it safe to say these features improve the vehicles performance capabilities? Be it so long as the systems are properly maintained like they should be.

Seems to be a misunderstanding or lack of information about the purpose of the ACE and SLS systems and honestly I think members here have a right to know the truth, not peoples biased views.

Antichrist: the question is can a older D2 frame fit on a 2004 D2 shell without modifying? A clean swap. Is there any variations in the frame from year to year (1999-2004) that would create issues with the swap? If I've asked this question before then I'm sorry. Perhaps I just don't remember you giving me a honest answer about honest question.

 

It's not one arm. It's two pieces. Look at the photo I attached, the end links attach to completely different components, with only bushings and the hydraulic actuator connecting them.

On a normal setup the end links are attached to the same bar.

 

Take a paper clip and bend in the shape of a sway bar (I______I) . simulate atriculation. Do you see how the bar resists articulation? When both wheels are at the same level of compression/extension, the stock bar sees no load. When they are uneven it sees load.

 

Rovers North lists two replacement chassis for DIIs. On for 99-02 and one for 03-04. I dont have a clue to the differences.

 

They changed the length of the panhard bar in front to reduce bump steer. I'm not sure if they changed the mount on the frame or the mount on the axle housing or both.

Also, the transmission is longer in 03-04 so the transfer case is pushed back a little. I'm not sure if this cause something to change on the frame either.

Those are at least two possibilities.

 

I have not, but I think you are overestimating the potential of ACE. I have to imagine there's a reason most people are getting rid of it rather than servicing it. To even consider adding the system without having ever driven it is a pretty wild thought. Have you ever come close to rolling? With 3.5" of lift and 33s I've only come close once, and that was on a trail, when ACE wouldn't have helped.

Are there two arms or one? It appears that there is only one, and that it is bolted in to the sway bar. I wasn't saying that the whole assembly is one piece, just that it was bolted in and I couldn't see how it pivoted.

I'm aware how a sway bar works, I was under the impression initially that there was just an actuator applying torque to the sway bar, not that there was a separate arm.

Panhard rod mount, it wouldn't matter which you ran.

^both

 

There is one arm and then the rest of the sway bar, which acts as the other arm. So essentially there are two...a short arm and a very long arm. The actuator sits where the two come together.

 

I had a customer buy two clean frames from me this summer. One was from an '02 and the other was from an '03. The customer was a former tech at Land Rover. He was plannning on using them on a couple of '03's he had. He seemed to be under the assumption that there wasn't any difference that would make the '02 chassis incompatible with his '03 shell. Never heard back from him so I have to assume the early frame worked with the later shell.

 

BTW, from what I've seen here in New England, the later frames seem to fair far worse. I've had several '03's with lower seams splitting on the rear rails. That doesn't seem as common on the earlier DII's.