UltraGauge Alternative
#61
If my design is invalid, should I drill a hole in my copper tee (remember I had to replace the plastic bleeder with a copper tee) and jam the sender in there? It is 1/8 NPT, so I am asuming I would use an 1/8" twist bit for that?
PRECAUTIONS
1. A temperature gauge requires that its sender
tip have a circulating flow around it to give an
accurate reading. For this reason, a T-fitting
cannot be used because it has no circulation
therefore the original warning light sender
cannot be operated off the same location. An
additional location may be available on the
cylinder head, intake manifold, or thermostat
housing but caution should be used in that
these locations may have different average
temperatures than the original warning light
sender location.
1. A temperature gauge requires that its sender
tip have a circulating flow around it to give an
accurate reading. For this reason, a T-fitting
cannot be used because it has no circulation
therefore the original warning light sender
cannot be operated off the same location. An
additional location may be available on the
cylinder head, intake manifold, or thermostat
housing but caution should be used in that
these locations may have different average
temperatures than the original warning light
sender location.
Last edited by number9; 03-15-2016 at 11:43 AM.
#62
Link to it:
Amazon.com : HOTSYSTEM 2" 52mm Blue Digital Water Temp Temperature ¡ãF Gauge for Car Motor : Car Electronics
I did some more research and apparently I can wire in a capacitor (or resistor I can't remember which) that would correct the 30F difference. I have to calculate exactly which rating capacitor/resitor to use. So far, this is the most appealing fix to me.
If that doesn't work then I will do Alex's inline mod.
Last edited by DiscoCam; 03-15-2016 at 11:50 AM.
#63
The instructions actually say to use a tee fitting.
Water Temperature Sender Attachments
Water Temp Adapter: Purchase a Water Temp Adapter from www.GlowShift.com. Cut the upper radiator hose and install the adapter between the two halves. Install the hose clamps included in the kit and tighten. Run a wire from the screw on the attachment to the engine ground and install the temp sender.
#64
Did the Alex_M style temp gauge mod and my temps are getting closer to what the ECM reads. Once all the air is out of the system I think I should be right on the mark. Thanks for that tip number9. Now to the oil pressure gauge. Was about to install it today, but then I realized that the included nylon tube is way too short (6FT tube 1/8"). For this reason, you might be compelled to use an electronic gauge. I am using a mechanical gauge because the look of the gauge reminds me of the one I had in my 1999 Isuzu Trooper (RIP).....
I am going to Orchard Supply tomorrow to get a longer tube (I think 10FT should be good) and I will hopefully install it by the weekend. I will make a full write up on the oil pressure gauge as soon as it is successfully installed so you guys can install one as well (if you'd like).
I am going to Orchard Supply tomorrow to get a longer tube (I think 10FT should be good) and I will hopefully install it by the weekend. I will make a full write up on the oil pressure gauge as soon as it is successfully installed so you guys can install one as well (if you'd like).
#65
So I am back with an update.
I went to install the oil pressure gauge today with a longer tube and found that using a mechanical gauge in this application is quite difficult. Also, the capillary tube has to be ridiculously long to reach the front cover. Because of this, I bought an electric gauge. I recommend you do so as well.
I plan on installing this tomorrow, so stay tuned...
I went to install the oil pressure gauge today with a longer tube and found that using a mechanical gauge in this application is quite difficult. Also, the capillary tube has to be ridiculously long to reach the front cover. Because of this, I bought an electric gauge. I recommend you do so as well.
I plan on installing this tomorrow, so stay tuned...
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#69
So I have found that it is pretty much impossible to get to the M12 plug on the front cover without actually removing the front cover itself.
The alternative is to use the M20 plug. It is very accessible but you will need an adapter to 1/8 npt.
I will report back once it is fully installed.
The alternative is to use the M20 plug. It is very accessible but you will need an adapter to 1/8 npt.
I will report back once it is fully installed.
#70
Guys, I finally did it. And here is how:
1. Drain your oil. Doing an oil change before you install the oil pressure sender will make this job a lot easier because the filter is in the way.
2. Wiring:
Get an add-a-fuse and put it on the cigarette lighter fuse under the dash. It is F32. Use a 2 amp fuse. I ended up using a 5 amp because my coolant temp gauge and voltmeter are on this circuit. Wire that up to your desired location in the truck. Use a hinge stud from the fuse box door as a ground. Then get your signal wire from the gauge and bring it towards the fuse box. Get some extra wire (I used 18 gauge) and feed it through the hood release cable grommet. Reach up in the dash and you will feel the cable. Bring that into the compartment and connect the two together. Under the hood, bring that signal wire down to the oil filter area. I went around the perimeter of the engine bay to get there. Wire that to the sender once you install it.
3. Making the adapter (Optional)
I couldn't find an M20x1.5 pitch to 1/8 NPT adapter anywhere. And I mean anywhere (well actually, eBay had one but I couldn't wait). So I decided to get my own. to do this part, you will need:
-21/64 twist bit
-powerful drill or drill press (used my Milwaukee)
-vice or a c-clamp with a bench
-1/8 NPT thread tapping tool
- 20mmx1.5 pitch bolt (Length doesn't matter but get the shortest you can. Mine is a 40mm long bolt)
First, drill a hole straight through the bolt with the 21/64 bit. Use plenty of oil when cutting so you don't warp the bolt or bit. Then, tap the threads. Go as far as your tool lets you go. Be careful when doing this because my drill whipped around quite a bit. Then install the sender on the bolt as tight as you can. Clean off all of the metal shaving from the bolt with oil and a paper towel.
4. Installation:
Reinstall your drain plug with a new washer. Take the oil filter off. Let it drain, then remove the bolt on top of it. I think the size in 1". Note the tightness of the bolt so that you do not over-tighten the sender. If you have an oil cooler, try using a tee. I don't have one so I am not sure how to do this mod with an oil cooler. Put 2 rounds of Teflon tape on the end of the threads of the sender/adapter assembly. Screw it on until it won't go anymore. Then get a wrench and SNUG it up. Do not over tighten! You will strip the threads on the engine! Apply some RTV around the sender assembly for added assurance. Connect the wire you routed earlier and install your filter of choice. Fill her up with your favorite oil. Start her up and check for leaks and make sure that the gauge now works. Top off the oil as necessary.
Please ask me any questions you have. Also, please share your experience with this mod and any tips you have as well.
1. Drain your oil. Doing an oil change before you install the oil pressure sender will make this job a lot easier because the filter is in the way.
2. Wiring:
Get an add-a-fuse and put it on the cigarette lighter fuse under the dash. It is F32. Use a 2 amp fuse. I ended up using a 5 amp because my coolant temp gauge and voltmeter are on this circuit. Wire that up to your desired location in the truck. Use a hinge stud from the fuse box door as a ground. Then get your signal wire from the gauge and bring it towards the fuse box. Get some extra wire (I used 18 gauge) and feed it through the hood release cable grommet. Reach up in the dash and you will feel the cable. Bring that into the compartment and connect the two together. Under the hood, bring that signal wire down to the oil filter area. I went around the perimeter of the engine bay to get there. Wire that to the sender once you install it.
3. Making the adapter (Optional)
I couldn't find an M20x1.5 pitch to 1/8 NPT adapter anywhere. And I mean anywhere (well actually, eBay had one but I couldn't wait). So I decided to get my own. to do this part, you will need:
-21/64 twist bit
-powerful drill or drill press (used my Milwaukee)
-vice or a c-clamp with a bench
-1/8 NPT thread tapping tool
- 20mmx1.5 pitch bolt (Length doesn't matter but get the shortest you can. Mine is a 40mm long bolt)
First, drill a hole straight through the bolt with the 21/64 bit. Use plenty of oil when cutting so you don't warp the bolt or bit. Then, tap the threads. Go as far as your tool lets you go. Be careful when doing this because my drill whipped around quite a bit. Then install the sender on the bolt as tight as you can. Clean off all of the metal shaving from the bolt with oil and a paper towel.
4. Installation:
Reinstall your drain plug with a new washer. Take the oil filter off. Let it drain, then remove the bolt on top of it. I think the size in 1". Note the tightness of the bolt so that you do not over-tighten the sender. If you have an oil cooler, try using a tee. I don't have one so I am not sure how to do this mod with an oil cooler. Put 2 rounds of Teflon tape on the end of the threads of the sender/adapter assembly. Screw it on until it won't go anymore. Then get a wrench and SNUG it up. Do not over tighten! You will strip the threads on the engine! Apply some RTV around the sender assembly for added assurance. Connect the wire you routed earlier and install your filter of choice. Fill her up with your favorite oil. Start her up and check for leaks and make sure that the gauge now works. Top off the oil as necessary.
Please ask me any questions you have. Also, please share your experience with this mod and any tips you have as well.
Last edited by DiscoCam; 03-21-2016 at 05:14 PM.