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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 06:55 AM
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2004 Disco II with ARB bull bar and warn winch. I would like to add at least 1 additional recovery point other than the winch. The ARB bar doesn’t seem to be a smart place to mount one as the metal seems a bit thin to me. Looking for ideas and input to make the right choice. Pictures welcome!
 
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Micmac
2004 Disco II with ARB bull bar and warn winch. I would like to add at least 1 additional recovery point other than the winch. The ARB bar doesn’t seem to be a smart place to mount one as the metal seems a bit thin to me. Looking for ideas and input to make the right choice. Pictures welcome!
I’ve been wondering about front recovery points too. I have an 03 also with and ARB and winch. I did need to get pulled up and out of a ditch via the front and at an angle. Fairly mild recovery but it did bend something on that corner. The bumper lines up differently now but I've never bothered to investigate.

I would like to keep the ARB but figured it might mean modifying it for recovery points at the frame rails. At which point I might be convinced to replace it.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2020 | 02:07 PM
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Take a look at how your bumper mounts there were 2 different mounting methods and the original one was notorious for the problems @Sean Maginness described.

Originally the ARB bumper mounted strictly via the crash cans, this allow from bending when recovering at an angle.

The changed mounting system added a support to the inside at about 45 deg that reduced ability of recover at an angle deforming the crash cans.

There was quite a lot written about ARB Bumper's bending on Disco II's.


As to where to put another recovery point, you could just add a steel plate in front and behind of a recovery point to reinforce it.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Gallant
Take a look at how your bumper mounts there were 2 different mounting methods and the original one was notorious for the problems @Sean Maginness described.

Originally the ARB bumper mounted strictly via the crash cans, this allow from bending when recovering at an angle.

The changed mounting system added a support to the inside at about 45 deg that reduced ability of recover at an angle deforming the crash cans.

There was quite a lot written about ARB Bumper's bending on Disco II's.


As to where to put another recovery point, you could just add a steel plate in front and behind of a recovery point to reinforce it.
Not sure about the extra support. The PO installed the ARB bumper but I know it’s only a couple years old. I’ll attach some pictures and see if it has the supports:





 
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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 01:38 PM
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That hook is a factory tow point. A lot of folks end up tossing that when they put on steel bumpers.

That should suffice for towing and winching needs. I don't know how I'd feel about using it for ****** recovery.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 01:41 PM
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In the second picture it looks like you have the 45 deg piece.
But you also have the stock recovery loop under there.
You could hook up to that as an additional recovery point I have been winched up a pretty nasty rock river bed using that point.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 02:07 PM
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I have this set of bow shackles and backing plates that are ready to go but I really don’t want to drill holes only to find I should have mounted them elsewhere.

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Is the area that the bumper is attached to the Crash Cans?
 
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Old Jan 22, 2020 | 02:46 PM
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@Llamasayswhat Not fan of kintec recovery, while it works well the guy in the pulling vehicle has really understand is not about high speed.

@Micmac yup the stock crash cans are replaced and Arb one installed
 
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