Discovery 2 LS Conversion
#951
Idle is consistently above 700 when I first fire it up. Considering i'm in an open fuel loop it's not surprising that the idle is fine. With AC off i'm seeing 720-730 RPMs. With AC on it dips to 700-720. I'll also get idle surge when pulling up to a stop light and sometimes the idle will fall so low after highway driving that the engine dies. I have a feeling that my issue is with the tune I have on it since I have a 2004 GTO tune and a new more aggressive cam. Possibly a bad Idle air control valve?
Thanks for that bellhousing block off plate, I'll definitely try that out.
Fuel pressure is ~54 psi? while running. Not sure if it drops while sitting still. Dirty fuel injectors is possible, although I dont have any misfires.
Swapped the polarities today on the VSS wires which did nothing. Confirmed that the Rover ECU does give a vehicle speed on my bluetooth scanner so its something on the swap side. I'm thinking I need to solder all the wires properly.
Did you send your flexplate back to ACE? I might need to drop the transmission so might as well replace the flexplate while i'm under there.
Thanks for that bellhousing block off plate, I'll definitely try that out.
Fuel pressure is ~54 psi? while running. Not sure if it drops while sitting still. Dirty fuel injectors is possible, although I dont have any misfires.
Swapped the polarities today on the VSS wires which did nothing. Confirmed that the Rover ECU does give a vehicle speed on my bluetooth scanner so its something on the swap side. I'm thinking I need to solder all the wires properly.
Did you send your flexplate back to ACE? I might need to drop the transmission so might as well replace the flexplate while i'm under there.
#952
You could even leave a gauge on the fuel pressure schrader valve when you shut it down and watch it over the next few minutes, hours and then overnight. At the very least, like suggested above, just confirm fuel pressure is there at all, that's at least a start. If there's even SOME pressure then the fuel is present at the injector and that mostly rules that issue out, if there's no pressure then take my suggestion to see how long before it's falling off and why.
#953
I’d focus on fixing that camshaft position code. That can cause all sorts of issues like you describe, like the slow starting, open loop, idle irregularities. Especially if you changed the cam. The idle fuel map could also play a role. Depends on the specific code you're getting as well.
Keep in mind also that the early LS engines have the rear cam timing trigger in the back of the cam, but some other cams only support the front cam sensor trigger on the cam gear, meaning if you want certain cams, you also have to switch the front cover, cam sensor, and timing gear to run them. I’m not saying this is happening to you, but its something for others to be aware of in the future.
Keep in mind also that the early LS engines have the rear cam timing trigger in the back of the cam, but some other cams only support the front cam sensor trigger on the cam gear, meaning if you want certain cams, you also have to switch the front cover, cam sensor, and timing gear to run them. I’m not saying this is happening to you, but its something for others to be aware of in the future.
#954
Thank you for all the suggestions, everyone! I'll make sure to report back when I have more results. Currently working with ACE and Speartech to figure out the speed sensor issue.
The cam code hasn't come back recently so going to put that one on the back-burner for now and confirm fuel pressure first.
For those interested, here's the cam that I went with: BTR GEN III & IV TRUCK CAM - STAGE 1 - V2 - BTR30612120
The cam code hasn't come back recently so going to put that one on the back-burner for now and confirm fuel pressure first.
For those interested, here's the cam that I went with: BTR GEN III & IV TRUCK CAM - STAGE 1 - V2 - BTR30612120
#955
#956
Ls Droid
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#957
Thanks Cap!
#958
Some updates!
Swapped out my cam sensor and the engine fires up within 1-2 seconds now which feels just like it should. Ironically the cam sensor that I pulled the engine with from the junkyard is the one that I put back into the engine. The new one I bought and installed while rebuilding the engine is the one that was causing my issues. For some reason I'm getting flashing M&S lights more frequently as of late. Need to read more about what could possible cause this, I have a feeling it might be my old battery that came with the car.
As far as the vehicle speed sensor reading on the GM side, I'm still troubleshooting. Got familiar with a multi-meter this weekend and confirmed all my grounds are showing proper resistance measurements. Cleaned up as many of them as possible and reconnected. Next on the list is to try a different grounding point for the GM ECU. I did lengthen the ground wire on the GM harness to have it reach the drivers side ground strap and that could apparently cause some issues with my wiring and the ECB box. Going to move the ground to one of the holes on the valve cover that gave me a good reading when testing.
My idle seems to have improved as well. I'm not sure if it's due to me cleaning up some of my grounding points but I'll take it!
Swapped out my cam sensor and the engine fires up within 1-2 seconds now which feels just like it should. Ironically the cam sensor that I pulled the engine with from the junkyard is the one that I put back into the engine. The new one I bought and installed while rebuilding the engine is the one that was causing my issues. For some reason I'm getting flashing M&S lights more frequently as of late. Need to read more about what could possible cause this, I have a feeling it might be my old battery that came with the car.
As far as the vehicle speed sensor reading on the GM side, I'm still troubleshooting. Got familiar with a multi-meter this weekend and confirmed all my grounds are showing proper resistance measurements. Cleaned up as many of them as possible and reconnected. Next on the list is to try a different grounding point for the GM ECU. I did lengthen the ground wire on the GM harness to have it reach the drivers side ground strap and that could apparently cause some issues with my wiring and the ECB box. Going to move the ground to one of the holes on the valve cover that gave me a good reading when testing.
My idle seems to have improved as well. I'm not sure if it's due to me cleaning up some of my grounding points but I'll take it!
#959