Project update



The P38 was challenged for the first time at Rovers on the Rocks. We showed up to the event with just a lift and tires. No armor, no traction aids and headed out with the big boys to see if we could keep up.



The Terrafirma lift did quite well over all the train that Roush creek had to offer.



We were running a little bit late for the rock competition so I had to hotfoot it back. Showing no mercy to the suspension tires or rims. The big girl bounded over rocks and crevices while we hit speeds of 20 miles an hour. To make things more interesting there was 3 adults in the truck. The suspension absorbed the torture with out showing any sign of wanting to quit. I don't know how they would've handled flying overwash board roads in 110 deg Arizona heat but for this little test they did more than expected for a direct bolt in shock.

Take a look at this video of the P38 balancing on two wheels. You can see the brake being spiked trying to get the truck to pitch and roll but the shocks are keeping it under control.


An interesting P38 thing happen when we were on the trail.
The new HD bumpers were not here in time so we were stuck with stock. Attached to the stock rear bumper was the trailer wiring harness. This will be relevant soon.
The trails of Rockcreek quickly eliminated the wiring harness. The remaining wiring shorted out and blew the brake light fuse. On most trucks this would not be a big deal but the P38 is not most trucks.



Unfortunately this fuse was also linked to the ABS



And without ABS you don't have any of this



The P38 was in a deep gully with rocks on either side. This made the doors impossible to open and prevented anybody from reaching the fuse that was so inconveniently located under the passenger seat. We decided to winch it out and when i jumped back in the truck to put it in drive it was stuck in park.

So quick recap of fuse number 17
Can't take the truck out of park
No ABS
No traction control
Oh yeah and no brake lights

Aside from the above issue of fuse number 17 I was extremely happy with the truck. The brakes are fantastic when compared to a Disco or Defender of the same generation



The pictures never look as steep as it really is




We use the P38 to set up the rock competition course



Bill AKA ArmyRover was able to jump in and run the course without doing any damage and give us is wonderful wheel stand picture.



Coming next will be rock sliders. We should have them in hand on Wednesday but I think we're going to have to do some work on the fenders.



The true 33 is a bit tight for the wheel well. I'm going to try some of Terrafirma's new fender flares. They were designed for the D2 and do not require you to cut the fender but extends the arches. We will have to see how they fit.

 

Nice, looks like tons of fun! Keep the posts coming!

Yup! I remember when I removed a seemingly harmless fuse for cruise control or something (don't remember, been too long) to help out another car that needed that particular amp fuse for a day or so until I went to an auto parts store to get another fuse. Yeah NO, after removing it, the RR decided not to start at all, let alone crank.

 

Here's a quick update with good news. We received the sliders and like a kid on Christmas I couldn't wait to rip open the box.



So far Im very happy with the build construction, powder coating and the way they mount directly to the frame. As you can see in this picture they fit the truck nicely.



We installed the passenger side and everything went quite well. We are saving the drivers side for the install video.



Things are moving forward with the locking Tcase too. Hopefully I'll have an update on that before the end of Jan.

 

I can't wait to see more. Reading this is my Christmas present, and I can't wait to open it and see more.

 

Thank you for the very kind words. I see you have a 2000. Can you help me with some measurements ?

 

Project help please

When talking to people about this project everybody has a different opinion on what size lift we have.
Hopefully we can clear this up. If anybody has access to a P38 with stock suspension could you take some measurements for us?
I would love to know the measurements in standard mode from the center of the wheel to the bottom of the fender front and rear please.

This is what we currently have on our project.
The front

21.5 inches

The rear

22 inches.

Just for reference the 305/70/16 tires on the truck

32 3/4 inches

Thank you for your help

 

I sold my 2000 and now have a 2002 with Gen 3 Arnott bags

 

That's okay can we still get a measurement?

 

Project update
With the sliders installed we played around with them a bit. Heres a quick review.


For the most part the install went quite well for these 3 bolts


But this one below was a little bit of a challenge. You needed to be spot on when drilling the hole.


As you can see in this picture the top of the slider fits snugly against the sill. You get to mount directly to the frame and still use the sill for support.


Over all We think they fit the truck nicely.


Playing on a gravel pile






coming down the pipe soon will be diff guards. As you can see from this picture we are on thin ice.

 

And finally here's a quick video of us testing the sliders.

p38 slider - YouTube