ABS warning lights
Was having a problem with a grinding noise with my new brakes.....turned out the dealer didn't install geniun rover parts like they said they did. Took teh 2001 Disco to Land Rover and they redid my brake job and completed the ABS recall installation at the same time.. Now I'm got my ABS lights warning going off at different times, sometimes when I'm using my breaks, but mostly randomly, like when I'm sitting still at a traffic light. All the other traction/downhill lights go off too. I've seen several recall notices for the ABS system, does anyone else seem to be having this problem, or kmow what might be causing it?
CarMax screwed up the brakes the first time - they replaced the pads and rotors. Land Rover fixed the pad problem - for a mere $500. It's been almost 6 months, so I guess I could take it back to Land Rover to see what they could do. Juat hate opening up that check book to them again.....
Car Max, well there is your first mistake, second was using the dealer. Next time you have a brake issue, get back to use first. At this point with out you going in and having someone read the codes, it is going to be had to say what is causing the problem. I would still lean towards a dirty or loose wheel sensor.
Mike
Mike
ORIGINAL: Disco Mike
Car Max, well there is your first mistake, second was using the dealer. Next time you have a brake issue, get back to use first.
Car Max, well there is your first mistake, second was using the dealer. Next time you have a brake issue, get back to use first.
Yes Bait is back. Did you get up on the wrong side of bed today or what?
My comment was into the fact that if you go to any shop other then a Rover type facility, you are asking for trouble, based on their last of experience and selection of parts they have available. To me that is like going to Midas and then wondering why you have brake problem as soon as you drive off.
Also, I retired after nearly 30 years of working/managing shops for dealers and am not bashing anyonenor am I supporting my own shop. Your off the handle remarks do get old, even after you have been off the site for awhile.
If you have something constructive to say that will help someone who has posted a question, go for it other wise change your attitude.
Mike
My comment was into the fact that if you go to any shop other then a Rover type facility, you are asking for trouble, based on their last of experience and selection of parts they have available. To me that is like going to Midas and then wondering why you have brake problem as soon as you drive off.
Also, I retired after nearly 30 years of working/managing shops for dealers and am not bashing anyonenor am I supporting my own shop. Your off the handle remarks do get old, even after you have been off the site for awhile.
If you have something constructive to say that will help someone who has posted a question, go for it other wise change your attitude.
Mike
Actually, CarMax did do a $hitty job on my brake job and flat out lied about what parts they used.....and I'll tell the world about it. I don't much care who Mike works for.....I only entered this site to get some advise. I was hoping to get more feedback from other Rover owners so I could tell if this was a systemic problem - and have been surprised by the lack of replies. Please don't mess up my forum thread with your petty tit for tats.
Frazierr,
There are a few things that can cause intermittent warning lights to come on. While it is true that a dislodged ABS sensor is one of those, this problem was more often seen on the earlier models. The sensor operates with a "air gap" between it and the target wheel, a ring with machined steps that allows the sensor to "count" revolutions of a given wheel at each vehicle corner. This target wheel is located radially by the hub/bearing assy, and it is when the hub bearings themselves see a radial movement due to wear --- that the air gap changes and the lights come on. What is aggravating for owners is that their seems to be no rhyme or reason to when the lights illuminate. Sometimes it is when going over "washboard" type road surfaces-- Other times when just pulling out of a parking lot and accelerating onto a highway.
The bottom line is thatthe accurate diagnosis of this problem can only be achieved by a shop that has a Autologic, RovaComm, or equiv. scanner that can read the fault codes stored in the system. And thisscanner is only found ata Dealer or well-equipped shop that specializes on Land Rovers. These scanners pin-point whichcomponent is out of range and triggering the code. Disco II's with 80-100K seem to have a predisposition towards this problem, and it often requiresa hub/bearing (one piece) assy changeout.
Just a little side comment on brake components. It seems that a lot of problems surface with owners trying to maintain or repair their Land Rovers with the cheapest parts available. As I heard from one Land Rover Vet recently --- "The problems are increasing as people think they can maintain a Land Rover with eBay parts". You get what you pay for , people. The "penny wise--dollar foolish" expression really applies here. If you can't afford the right way to maintain and repair a Land Rover, sell it and buy a Asian clone. You will be happier, and we in the business will have some relief from those in possession of a compromised sense of logic.
Hope this helps.
regards,
Geoman
www.eurotekapg.com
There are a few things that can cause intermittent warning lights to come on. While it is true that a dislodged ABS sensor is one of those, this problem was more often seen on the earlier models. The sensor operates with a "air gap" between it and the target wheel, a ring with machined steps that allows the sensor to "count" revolutions of a given wheel at each vehicle corner. This target wheel is located radially by the hub/bearing assy, and it is when the hub bearings themselves see a radial movement due to wear --- that the air gap changes and the lights come on. What is aggravating for owners is that their seems to be no rhyme or reason to when the lights illuminate. Sometimes it is when going over "washboard" type road surfaces-- Other times when just pulling out of a parking lot and accelerating onto a highway.
The bottom line is thatthe accurate diagnosis of this problem can only be achieved by a shop that has a Autologic, RovaComm, or equiv. scanner that can read the fault codes stored in the system. And thisscanner is only found ata Dealer or well-equipped shop that specializes on Land Rovers. These scanners pin-point whichcomponent is out of range and triggering the code. Disco II's with 80-100K seem to have a predisposition towards this problem, and it often requiresa hub/bearing (one piece) assy changeout.
Just a little side comment on brake components. It seems that a lot of problems surface with owners trying to maintain or repair their Land Rovers with the cheapest parts available. As I heard from one Land Rover Vet recently --- "The problems are increasing as people think they can maintain a Land Rover with eBay parts". You get what you pay for , people. The "penny wise--dollar foolish" expression really applies here. If you can't afford the right way to maintain and repair a Land Rover, sell it and buy a Asian clone. You will be happier, and we in the business will have some relief from those in possession of a compromised sense of logic.
Hope this helps.
regards,
Geoman
www.eurotekapg.com
ORIGINAL: Frazierr
Actually, CarMax did do a $hitty job on my brake job and flat out lied about what parts they used.....and I'll tell the world about it. I don't much care who Mike works for.....I only entered this site to get some advise. I was hoping to get more feedback from other Rover owners so I could tell if this was a systemic problem - and have been surprised by the lack of replies. Please don't mess up my forum thread with your petty tit for tats.
Actually, CarMax did do a $hitty job on my brake job and flat out lied about what parts they used.....and I'll tell the world about it. I don't much care who Mike works for.....I only entered this site to get some advise. I was hoping to get more feedback from other Rover owners so I could tell if this was a systemic problem - and have been surprised by the lack of replies. Please don't mess up my forum thread with your petty tit for tats.
For what it is worth, after managing shops for nearly 30 years, I had to retire a few years back with a heart problem so all I do know is to try and help people thru their Rovers issues.
If you want to spend a little time on the phone, send me your tele number and a good time to call you, I'll call and answer as many of your questions.
Mike
mikeljacobs@comcast.net
ORIGINAL: Disco Mike
Sorry you got in the middle of that little exchange of words, Bait has a tendency to flair up once in awhile and stir things up.
For what it is worth, after managing shops for nearly 30 years, I had to retire a few years back with a heart problem so all I do know is to try and help people thru their Rovers issues.
If you want to spend a little time on the phone, send me your tele number and a good time to call you, I'll call and answer as many of your questions.
Mike
mikeljacobs@comcast.net
Sorry you got in the middle of that little exchange of words, Bait has a tendency to flair up once in awhile and stir things up.
For what it is worth, after managing shops for nearly 30 years, I had to retire a few years back with a heart problem so all I do know is to try and help people thru their Rovers issues.
If you want to spend a little time on the phone, send me your tele number and a good time to call you, I'll call and answer as many of your questions.
Mike
mikeljacobs@comcast.net
Good luck
~Ed
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