Fan clutch has whupped me
Winching
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oil pressure
Atancreti...There are a lot of gauges there. Prices look good. Which one did you get? I like the black 7 color for function but the white bezels seem more "classic".
I don't know where I'd mount it and what kind of accessories I'd need to do it. You think I can get the water in for under $75. I might do it now since I have the overheating problems.
I think I would need water temp and oil pressure. That's reasonable right? I have a thing about logo's, stickers (and smilies). They could have done better with that design. No biggie.
I'll be on to you for the offered help. If you want to stop by I'll surely buy the beer. My street is a bikini boardwalk to the popular beach here so it's a little distracting but you get used to it. Kinda.
I don't know where I'd mount it and what kind of accessories I'd need to do it. You think I can get the water in for under $75. I might do it now since I have the overheating problems.
I think I would need water temp and oil pressure. That's reasonable right? I have a thing about logo's, stickers (and smilies). They could have done better with that design. No biggie.
I'll be on to you for the offered help. If you want to stop by I'll surely buy the beer. My street is a bikini boardwalk to the popular beach here so it's a little distracting but you get used to it. Kinda.
I personally wanted it to stand out. It lights up nicely in the day and its bright enough at night to see it easily but not blind you. I also used this Oil Filter Sender Adapter - 3/4 unf-16 and that has the pressure and temp sensor in it. All you need is the gauges and wire. I grounded both of the gauges to the negative on the battery. I used white wire as my "sensor wire" and red as my "hot" wire. I wanted it to be ignition controlled, so I wired it into the cigarette lighter, its got a 20 amp fuse and I don't use my cigarette lighter. They draw 3.4 amps. The average cell phone charge is using 0.5 amp. So if I need to plug my phone in I will be okay. I also put switches in on them in case I need to use all of the 20 amp fuse I can by flicking the switch and there off! Taking the fuse box out is a son of a.... I couldn't get the bottom screw back in so mine only has the top one now. Oh well, it doesn't move. I saved it because maybe one day she will let me? haha When it comes to there water temp gauge they tell you to cut your top radiator hose and stick the sensor that looks almost like a MAF with two hose clamps. Well that hose is $30. I can't use the Atlantic British one because it wears out to quickly.
I will try to get some pictures and start my own thread so its not like I am hijacking it....
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atancreti-
Suggest you review your oil pressure and perhaps you are looking at a problem, your warm pressure seems quite low. See this from workshop manual, oil pressure testing (under engine repair):
1. Check lubricant is to correct level.
Suggest you review your oil pressure and perhaps you are looking at a problem, your warm pressure seems quite low. See this from workshop manual, oil pressure testing (under engine repair):
Test
1. Check lubricant is to correct level.
2. Place vehicle on a ramp [hoist].
3. Disconnect battery negative lead. Remove oil pressure switch.
4. Fit the test gauge.
5. Reconnect battery negative lead.
6. Start and run engine to normal operating temperature.
7. At a steady engine speed of 2500 rev/min -engine oil pressure reading should be - 2.75 bar (40 lbf/in 2).
8. If the pressure is low - Remove and overhaul oil pump
I would add a note that if the vehicle is fitted with an oil cooler in the radiator the lines or cooler can become clogged, starving the system for oil, might want to check that as well. Others have commented that since some D2s don't have oil cooler, you could use heavy duty hose and clamps to bypass the D1 oil cooler for testing. Also, your oil could be an issue, if it is very light weight (although your cold numbers make it seem unlikely).
I agree with others that the new guages are slick. And may have helped you catch a problem in the cheap to fix stages.
Last edited by Savannah Buzz; Sep 4, 2011 at 11:37 AM.
Rock Crawling
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Something that hasn't come up yet, is that there is a fan clutch in between the Imperial p/ns 215157 and 215158, the 215107. The way it breaks down is:
215157 (Torqflo p/n 922626): standard duty (for engines without A/C)
215107 (Torqflo p/n 922744): heavy duty (for engines with A/C)
215158 (Torqflo p/n 922786): severe duty (for engines with A/C)
If the 215157 isn't scratching your itch, and the 215158 is driving you nuts, maybe it's time to try the 215107.
215157 (Torqflo p/n 922626): standard duty (for engines without A/C)
215107 (Torqflo p/n 922744): heavy duty (for engines with A/C)
215158 (Torqflo p/n 922786): severe duty (for engines with A/C)
If the 215157 isn't scratching your itch, and the 215158 is driving you nuts, maybe it's time to try the 215107.
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Actually, that was my first choice. When I installed it, it is seven inch size, so had to use some washers. went back and got the Non/AC version. Then the extreme version. Then a Chevy boneyard bargain. This post has gotten long enough, and quite scattered. Will start a new one.
Rock Crawling
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FWIW, I had a couple of Torqflo oe-replacement fan clutches for the LR be the wrong ones in the box. I found a third store in the area that had the correct diameter one under the same exact p/n. I pointed this all out to the guy at the store when picking up the proper one - not sure if he totally got it or not.
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They are all somewhat different dimensions, diameter and depth.
For instance, the 215158 moves the fan blade far enough towards the front that the metal fan clears everything. The 215107 is less and the 215157 is even less. I don't know if the metal fan would clear with the latter two clutches.
For instance, the 215158 moves the fan blade far enough towards the front that the metal fan clears everything. The 215107 is less and the 215157 is even less. I don't know if the metal fan would clear with the latter two clutches.
Rock Crawling
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Huh, that's interesting. Makes me wonder if the factory fitted a different fan to each of them.
Something else that hasn't come up... the optimum position for a fan and shroud setup is for the fan blades to be half inside and half outside the shroud. Messing with that will mess with the air flow as well.
Something else that hasn't come up... the optimum position for a fan and shroud setup is for the fan blades to be half inside and half outside the shroud. Messing with that will mess with the air flow as well.
Winching
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atancreti-
Suggest you review your oil pressure and perhaps you are looking at a problem, your warm pressure seems quite low. See this from workshop manual, oil pressure testing (under engine repair):
1. Check lubricant is to correct level.
Suggest you review your oil pressure and perhaps you are looking at a problem, your warm pressure seems quite low. See this from workshop manual, oil pressure testing (under engine repair):
Test
1. Check lubricant is to correct level.
2. Place vehicle on a ramp [hoist].
3. Disconnect battery negative lead. Remove oil pressure switch.
4. Fit the test gauge.
5. Reconnect battery negative lead.
6. Start and run engine to normal operating temperature.
7. At a steady engine speed of 2500 rev/min -engine oil pressure reading should be - 2.75 bar (40 lbf/in 2).
8. If the pressure is low - Remove and overhaul oil pump
I would add a note that if the vehicle is fitted with an oil cooler in the radiator the lines or cooler can become clogged, starving the system for oil, might want to check that as well. Others have commented that since some D2s don't have oil cooler, you could use heavy duty hose and clamps to bypass the D1 oil cooler for testing. Also, your oil could be an issue, if it is very light weight (although your cold numbers make it seem unlikely).
I agree with others that the new guages are slick. And may have helped you catch a problem in the cheap to fix stages.
Pro Wrench
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I went with a Oil pressure and Oil temp! This is the series Tinted Gauge Series
I personally wanted it to stand out.
I personally wanted it to stand out.
with all the overheat problems I don't know how you don't do water gauge. Go on....show us how they look installed. please.