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Old Dec 18, 2011 | 08:45 PM
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Jeep 4WD Transfer case blown up - YouTube
 
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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by kyzur
Ok, lets try this question again.
Is the first picture (the top picture) in post #16 of this thread an actual picture of the exact bearing for use in the LT230SE transfer case.
I have no idea. It might be, it might not be.
Yes, I know it is a ball bearing, yes I know there are 2 types in the xfer case roller and ball (i have stated that numerous times), and yes i know the front and rear are ball bearings. My question is above.
What difference does it make? It's a generic caged ball bearing, they all look the same for the most part. Most people can't tell the difference, but to make you happy, here's an actual SKF 6207. At least the web site says it is. Since there is no dimensional reference or PN visible there's no way to know if it really is or isn't.

 

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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 11:33 PM
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as i stated the "difference" seemed rather logical and important to my little mind in my little world, being that (as i stated) i was trying to determine if places i considered buying bearing from (if needed - which is fairly likely) were showing wrong ball bearing and thus not reliable in my humble opinion. it seems that point got lost somehow and instead it may have appeared to some that i was being picky.

simply put - i just wanted to know if the pic was of the proper bearing because it did not look like some i had seen online. EITHER could have been generic pics and i wondered which if any were.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 12:27 AM
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Interesting videos!
BIG THANKS for posting them.

I had a cherokee that xfer case went out of around 175,000 and wow, what a tank that cherokee was. I owned several over the years but that one went over 300,000 miles and the last half were all torture as it became essentially only for the farm and off roading or towing. Used it for pulling stumps and trees and had it air born more than once off roading. It was still running tough and strong and licensed when I sold it but it was a little rough. Still all one color with no big dents or rust and clean all leather but it certainly showed some wear. That chain wore a hole right through the xfer case around 175k prior to the more serious work that jeep saw. I wonder if that is how it started with one in video prior to essentially exploding? It still drove but kept making noise and eventually I knew it had to be replaced (obviously!) when I could see the chain because it wore hole in casing.

Any ideas what the "clatter" is in 2nd video of disco xfer? Seems odd that they would run it without any oil for so long though. Maybe that is why xfer case is "complaining"? Have to admit that those "no chain" boxes like in 2nd video are great industrial design. Seeing those gears in action make me happy to know one is under my vehicle. Much better then those on jeep cherokees in my opinion.

Anybody have opinion on best Land Rover xfer case? Not wanting to go off on tangent but I ask because I was under impression these LT230 were one of or the best.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 08:11 AM
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Yes, LT230 is the best that was used on coiler Land Rovers.
I'd certainly make sure to get one that has CDL.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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The Rover t-case video was of a bad t-case, the bearings were shot and it was getting yanked out.
But for fun and to see one work he pulled the inspection plate, put it on 4 jack stands and had his wife inside.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 10:32 PM
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Well, even with the noise and no real load, it ran pretty good for no oil, shot bearings, and over 6 minutes shifting back and forth. Maybe it had one of those oils like slick 50 that is supposed to coat gears even when drained? They did look a bit shiny yet there was no splatter onto camera screen.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2011 | 06:54 AM
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The LT230 is a well designed and rugged transfer case. There are a lot of people around who've run them dry or nearly dry without ill effects.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2011 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by kyzur
Well, even with the noise and no real load, it ran pretty good for no oil, shot bearings, and over 6 minutes shifting back and forth. Maybe it had one of those oils like slick 50 that is supposed to coat gears even when drained? They did look a bit shiny yet there was no splatter onto camera screen.
As long as the bearings on the output shafts are lubed it will run with not much harm for quite awhile.

That guy is a friend of mine, he works on Rovers in his spare time, that was one of his "customers" trucks.
The fluid had never been changed in it, the bearings went bad, so no Slick 50 or other kind of crap in the t-case.
If you watch close you can see oil spalter on the camera.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2011 | 12:41 AM
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Still running strong but still making me paranoid with the whine.
Possibly have opportunity to work on it Thursday instead of waiting until 3rd which would be 5 days and many miles sooner.
Have been keeping eye on it and it has small leak on seal of inspection plate. It never leaked before we had problem. Our problem started on a suddenly wicked cold night of below zero temps (not windchill) which made me wonder if this somehow caused seal to leak out most of the oil OR was it not leaking because it was so low when we got it? Unfortunately wife never looked on ground where she parked it at hospital that night.

Still debating with myself on the transmission jack too. Very tempted, so probably will convince myself I can sell it later. Been checking local ads and all the used of all types are almost same as new, in fact usually more than new by time I drive to get them. It does seem waste to buy the flat non tilting style or floor jack adapter though. Seems like you want the wide stable base on actual tran jack and the 2 way tilt action for easier install.

Wished Santa would have left one under the tree, but then he always uses my checkbook and credit card anyway. lol
 
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