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Here I am 6 years later, and over 60,000 miles on my first Cooper XEON LTZ tires, and I just now needed to replace them. I liked them so much, I replaced them with a new set. I bought them from a local Tire Rama that mentioned doing an alignment is recommended, but said they did not have the appropriate tools to do the alignment correctly on my LR2. They said there are specific Land Rover tools needed to do that kind of aligment.
i would have to drive at least 200 miles to get to a dealership or specialist. Does anyone know if that is truly a necessity?
Were you able to visually inspect the original Cooper's you replaced? If there was any uneven wear on any of them then I would agree with an alignment as a necessity. If none of them wore unevenly, I would not be overly concerned personally.
I did some research, took some measurements, talked to my dealership to insure warranty guidelines, and tried on a couple different sizes of tires on my 19" wheels in my 2008 LR2 and came up with this solution:
I've got the 19" wheels and have put P255/60 R19's on mine -- Michelin Latitute Tour. They are both wider and taller. And because they're taller, the sidewall doesn't come any closer to the suspension behind the tire, even though the surface of the tire is wider. I thought I was going to have to install spacers before I fit them, but that turned out not to be the case. The shorter the tire, the more bulge on the sidewall. Inversely, as here, the taller the tire, the less bulge from the sidewall. This is a really nice fit, no spacers needed, no rub. The only thing that's different is that you'll manually have to correct the 6% increase in speed/milage/odometer over what the car's instrument panel will register (you're going faster than what the speedo is saying!) I've had these on there for 18k miles and no complaints! No decrease in mileage (possible increase actually) and the ride is smoother, with a little added clearance, and my rig looking more like a capable SUV and not so much of a car. They're wearing very good too. I'm looking forward to getting more miles out of these than my Continental's. Tires in this size range are cheaper as well.
OH, this tire size calculator was very helpful: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html . The OEM tire size I upgraded from was 235/55 R19, which wore down in barely 30k miles.
Were you able to visually inspect the original Cooper's you replaced? If there was any uneven wear on any of them then I would agree with an alignment as a necessity. If none of them wore unevenly, I would not be overly concerned personally.
There was visual wear. The insides of the tires were totally bald. But there was still a bit of tread on the outside. Very noticeable.
Im just curious if I really need to take it to a dealer due to special tools to do it right?
How did these tires affect your cornering on the highway?
Did not negatively effect it at all. I think they are better, and ha’ve better grip on highway than the continentals. They are a sport truck tire. So the were designed with highway driving in mind. Overall excellent tire.
There was visual wear. The insides of the tires were totally bald. But there was still a bit of tread on the outside. Very noticeable.
Im just curious if I really need to take it to a dealer due to special tools to do it right?
You may want to get an alignment as you have too much negative camber which would cause the inside tire wear. I have not done an alignment yet on my LR2 but I can't see why only a LR dealership will be able to provide one. Call around to a few reputable alignment shops and see if they can do it and how much. I would even check with the dealership as it can't hurt to know what they charge.
I'm in the market as well.
My summer rims are the
235/55 19... I have Yokohamas on there now.
Lets just say 'never again'. Quiet, yes. but the grip is terrible, especially in the rain or the cold. And useless off the pavement.
I prefer a little more sidewall on a truck and suv to deal with the places I want to go. My winters are 255/65 17 Toyo. They work. But not stellar on ice.
I would like a beefier look and much more grip on both sets. Has anyone oversized their tires? Anyone using an aggressive tire they like?
I'm in the market as well.
My summer rims are the
235/55 19... I have Yokohamas on there now.
Lets just say 'never again'. Quiet, yes. but the grip is terrible, especially in the rain or the cold. And useless of the pavement.
I prefer a little more sidewall on a truck and suv to deal with the places I want to go. My winters are 255/65 17 Toyo. They work. But not stellar on ice.
I would like a beefier look and much more grip on both sets. Has anyone oversized their tires? Anyone using an aggressive tire they like?
Cheers.
The Cooper XEON LTZ have pretty aggressive tread, but not a ton of sidewall. I have never had a problem with this and I live in Montana and drive off road in the mountains on a weekly basis in the summer. And a little less frequently in the winter. Those tires handle off-road and snow extremely well. As a matter of fact, I just had to drive up a snowy logging road earlier this year to pull a buddy out who got stuck in the mountains in the snow in his 4Runner. My tires (and Land Rover) pulled me right up the mountain, and pulled him out with no problem.
However, when I was originally shopping. I was enticed by the Nitto Terra Grappler tires. A little more aggressive than the Coopers, but they only make them for 18 inch wheel and I have 19s. And I was a little concerned about road noise. So I decided the XEON LTZ's were likely the best cross between road and off road tires, and no need to buy new wheels. And I have been very happy with them for the past 6 years.
I have to replace my second set of Cooper Zeno LTZ tiers. I found out they no longer make them, so I’m looking for an alternative. One of the ones I’m looking at is the Pirelli Scorpion all terrain plus tires. Guy, how are these tires on your LR2? How is the tire noise on pavement, and have driven them in the snow? I’m also considering the Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac and the Toyo Open Season AT III.
let me know what your experience with the Scorpions.
Yes, noisy on the pavement... but no more noisy then my winter tires.
Truly, they grip like crazy. Whether in the rain on pavement, mud or rock. And equally good in the dry.
I drive the LR about 75/25, pavement/gravel, off road split. So I've learned to turn up the stereo on the highway.
I did drop the air pressures by about 3 lbs. from the recommended pressures. I found it a little too bouncy.
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