LR3 Reliability
#41
RE: LR3 Reliability
I also did the same research before leasing a LR3. I traded in my H2 and was a bit learly of all the old bad blood that has been spilled in the past with the glitches of landrover's. I must say, I am amazed with my 2007 LE! I chose to lease simply to have a chance to upgrade with technology. I test drove the GL 450 and was very impressed. However, It reminded me of a minivan too much and it's too fancy to go offroading IMO. Good luck!
#42
RE: LR3 Reliability
Well I will throw my 2 cents in. I have just purchased 2 months ago a 2005 with 16k miles. I have had only 3 problems that the previous owner did not fix. Low Coolant, Water leak from the Sun Roof and hesitation at the stop sign from a stop. All three taken care. I never ever thought of owning a Land Rover. Now that I have a LR3 SE I can not think of owning another vehicle and I have 2 other Jeeps and a truck. I am sold even if I have to have warranty work done. My buddies at work with Jeeps are really jealous. Go for the LR3 you will not be sorry. Good luck!
#43
#44
RE: LR3 Reliability
Pretty obvious you don't know much about Rovers specifically the LR3.
I have done trails the likes of which you can only dream about and the LR3 with a good set of tire is pretty amazing.
Ford ran out of money and allowed some things to get run down, the Good side of it is the TaTa, from India now owns Rover and we should see some good changes.
As for the Americans, in the past we have had nothing to say about the LR3's direction so in the future get your story straight.
I have done trails the likes of which you can only dream about and the LR3 with a good set of tire is pretty amazing.
Ford ran out of money and allowed some things to get run down, the Good side of it is the TaTa, from India now owns Rover and we should see some good changes.
As for the Americans, in the past we have had nothing to say about the LR3's direction so in the future get your story straight.
#45
RE: LR3 Reliability
I DO OWN A 98 DISCOVERY.WHAT I AM GETTING AT IS THAT EVERYONE TURNS DOWN THIS VEHICLE ESPECIALLY THE WELL PAID CONSUMER REPORTS AND AUTO MAGAZINES TRASHING NEGATIVELY ANY TYPE OF INFORMATION ON OWNERSHIP. MY PERSPECTIVE IS THEY NEVER REMEMBER THATBMW ANDFORD HAVE HAD THERE PART IN MAKING ROVERS BETTER AND ALSO WORSE.WHEN THEY ARE FANTASTIC ROVERS ARE GREAT BECAUSE OF THEM,BUT WHEN THEY FLAW ,BLAME IT ON THE BRITS. MY POST ABOUT FORD IS A SARCASTIC REMARK.I KNOW TATA WAS INTERESTED ,BUT JAGUAR DEALERS REFUSED TO ACCEPT BECAUSE OF IMAGE PROBLEMS.DO NOT KNOW ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE ABOUT ROVER.PEOPLE ARE NOT EDUCATED ON HOW GREATLYWELL BUILT ROVERS ARE AND LET THEMSELFS BE INFLUENCED BY THE NEGATIVE EXPERIENCES OF OTHERS.
#46
RE: LR3 Reliability
I have a 2005 LR3 V8 SE and owned Jeeps before this purchase. I was skeptical of buying a Land Rover. Was it really worth the investment. I bought this for my wife. She has never in my 32 years of marriage commented about any of her vehicles I have purchased for her. She loves this vehicle and I guess I have caused a problem now since I do not believe that she will drive any other vehicle. Now she is thinking about a 2008. I hope to hold her off for another year or two. I highly recommend the vehicle we have had a few problems but nothing that took long to repair. Oh did I mention the loaner LR3. Well that sure makes taking it in a lot easier. Try taking in a Jeep you are then going to rent a car. Well as you can see I would say go for the LR3 you will not be sorry.
#48
RE: LR3 Reliability
I like the comments that EL Gallo and Disco Mike last posted. I am looking to buy a brand new LR3 or LR2. I really like the
LR3 the best. The LR3 just screams at me to use it for the 1% that the ads talk about. lol Owning a LR and not taking it to
trails that would kill a kia and murder a Merc is wrong. That would be like owning a Harley and not ever going on a road trip.
I also know that people pay for the legend. Both for the Harley as well as the LR. People put up with problems in craftmanship
and poor engineering and call them 'quirks.' I wish I had the reigns to a large investment firm. LR would get the attention to
detail the toyotas and nissans garner. The simple fact that LR is still building honest to goodness off road vehicles and not gone
the way of Jeep and augmented their fleet with 'crossover' soft roading wannabes is enough for me to want to put down more money
to own one. But I am not close to 40 yet. To have to deal with appointments for vehicle repairs takes away from all the other appointments
that I have to keep. I really do hope that I still see the LR crossing africa 10-15 years from now (flying cars be damned).
For me, part of the enjoyment of getting away from all the worries and sounds of the city, is knowing that the vehicle will always
bring me back. Not towed back. Not bring me back with more worries and added service appointments. As soon as Harley fixed
reliability problems everyone began buying them. No longer was it just the greased knuckled, who thought wrenching was a part
of owning one. Soon the most un-Harley types bought them. Doctors and lawyers.
I would love to see all the kinks get ironed out with LR in the same manner. Then the premium price for a SUV would
not seem so premium. After all people buy Land Rovers for their legendary ability off the beaten path. It has become a status symbol.
Unlike Disco Mike, most do not use the LR for the intended purpose. I just want to have a warm and fuzzy that what 'problems' or
'quirks' come up with my on/off road vehicle is relevant to the intensity to which I use it. Every tool has a purpose. What is this one's?
I want one because of that purpose. The way in which I can use it as more than transport around town. To travel to places most will
never see.
IMO a harsher ride and crazy gas mileage are 'quirks.' Poor quality is not a 'quirk' it is just poor quality. I would hope that the bean
counters at LR and the people who build them would have as much pride in this vehicle as many of you do. Even with all the problems
many on this forum have posted (even severe problems) most say they are keeping their LRs and would even buy another. That is a hard
element to rate in a consumer report or J.D. Powers article.
LR3 the best. The LR3 just screams at me to use it for the 1% that the ads talk about. lol Owning a LR and not taking it to
trails that would kill a kia and murder a Merc is wrong. That would be like owning a Harley and not ever going on a road trip.
I also know that people pay for the legend. Both for the Harley as well as the LR. People put up with problems in craftmanship
and poor engineering and call them 'quirks.' I wish I had the reigns to a large investment firm. LR would get the attention to
detail the toyotas and nissans garner. The simple fact that LR is still building honest to goodness off road vehicles and not gone
the way of Jeep and augmented their fleet with 'crossover' soft roading wannabes is enough for me to want to put down more money
to own one. But I am not close to 40 yet. To have to deal with appointments for vehicle repairs takes away from all the other appointments
that I have to keep. I really do hope that I still see the LR crossing africa 10-15 years from now (flying cars be damned).
For me, part of the enjoyment of getting away from all the worries and sounds of the city, is knowing that the vehicle will always
bring me back. Not towed back. Not bring me back with more worries and added service appointments. As soon as Harley fixed
reliability problems everyone began buying them. No longer was it just the greased knuckled, who thought wrenching was a part
of owning one. Soon the most un-Harley types bought them. Doctors and lawyers.
I would love to see all the kinks get ironed out with LR in the same manner. Then the premium price for a SUV would
not seem so premium. After all people buy Land Rovers for their legendary ability off the beaten path. It has become a status symbol.
Unlike Disco Mike, most do not use the LR for the intended purpose. I just want to have a warm and fuzzy that what 'problems' or
'quirks' come up with my on/off road vehicle is relevant to the intensity to which I use it. Every tool has a purpose. What is this one's?
I want one because of that purpose. The way in which I can use it as more than transport around town. To travel to places most will
never see.
IMO a harsher ride and crazy gas mileage are 'quirks.' Poor quality is not a 'quirk' it is just poor quality. I would hope that the bean
counters at LR and the people who build them would have as much pride in this vehicle as many of you do. Even with all the problems
many on this forum have posted (even severe problems) most say they are keeping their LRs and would even buy another. That is a hard
element to rate in a consumer report or J.D. Powers article.
#50
RE: LR3 Reliability
True: Regarding your post if I may,While it is true and I think we all would agree that a little more quality control would be welcome from LR's assembly line, I think most of us miss the greater points to be considered. First being that while it is certainly true that LR's have been known to have a few small "issues" right from the showroom floor, sodoes any other vehicle out there to some degreeifwe are honest with ourselves. I have a friend who recently bought a new Benz SUV, I think it is an M5 or something other. She has had to get towed back to the dealer several times now because the thing got her to work and then refused to start.
I have owned chevy, ford, toyota, nissan, Acura, Lexus and there hasn't been a single one that never needed to go to the dealer for some minor repair. The problem seems to be that most folks who buy a 25k ford or chevy or nissan expect to have to deal with that. However most people who pay 50 to 100k for their rovers do not, and are quite fast to complain very loud about it when they do. I don't think they haveTHAT MANYmore quirks than any other brand, at least that has not been my experience with my LR3. I do believe they have the loudest owner base and the most ready to complain about minor stuff...but that said, rightly so with the prices we pay for these vehicles.
Second and most important point, at no point have I seen a trend of anyone complaining that a Land Rover will need to get towed back home from a trip. It may have a rattle on the sunroof but it will get you home everytime. I don't think anyone out there, even the ones who have had the most "quirks" to work out, will argue that Rovers powers trains are designed to last forever while working under the worst conditions.
I know they have their small issues, every car out there does to some smaller or greater extent. Wish it was a lot less of it and it should,but one thing a Land Rover owner can count on is that after a day of putting your vehicle through extremes that would kill most vehicles out there today, your rover will get you back homecomfortably and in style.
I have had my share of quirks to work out of my LR3, all small stuff that was fixed at the begining of ownership. And even after those I would have to say I side with those who would definitely buy again. I actually can no longer picture myself driving anything else at this point and not because of the "status" the name carries with it. I was never one to pay for a tag or a name. I honestly think that there is nothing out there I have seen or driven that can compare with these vehicles. It is simply a category to themselves. My advice, buy a Rover. Mine puts a smile on my face everytime I drive it. A year later I am still excited everytime I turn the key. That sums it up for me!
I have owned chevy, ford, toyota, nissan, Acura, Lexus and there hasn't been a single one that never needed to go to the dealer for some minor repair. The problem seems to be that most folks who buy a 25k ford or chevy or nissan expect to have to deal with that. However most people who pay 50 to 100k for their rovers do not, and are quite fast to complain very loud about it when they do. I don't think they haveTHAT MANYmore quirks than any other brand, at least that has not been my experience with my LR3. I do believe they have the loudest owner base and the most ready to complain about minor stuff...but that said, rightly so with the prices we pay for these vehicles.
Second and most important point, at no point have I seen a trend of anyone complaining that a Land Rover will need to get towed back home from a trip. It may have a rattle on the sunroof but it will get you home everytime. I don't think anyone out there, even the ones who have had the most "quirks" to work out, will argue that Rovers powers trains are designed to last forever while working under the worst conditions.
I know they have their small issues, every car out there does to some smaller or greater extent. Wish it was a lot less of it and it should,but one thing a Land Rover owner can count on is that after a day of putting your vehicle through extremes that would kill most vehicles out there today, your rover will get you back homecomfortably and in style.
I have had my share of quirks to work out of my LR3, all small stuff that was fixed at the begining of ownership. And even after those I would have to say I side with those who would definitely buy again. I actually can no longer picture myself driving anything else at this point and not because of the "status" the name carries with it. I was never one to pay for a tag or a name. I honestly think that there is nothing out there I have seen or driven that can compare with these vehicles. It is simply a category to themselves. My advice, buy a Rover. Mine puts a smile on my face everytime I drive it. A year later I am still excited everytime I turn the key. That sums it up for me!