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Old Dec 10, 2023 | 01:39 PM
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I am a frequent visitor to this site, but this is my first time posting a question. My 2013 LR4 thru an error for low coolant over the weekend. Easy fix, just topped it off and error disappeared; however, the car would not start. Noticed it was no showing a low battery message, so I jumped it. Took almost 10 mins, but it eventually started. Drove it and did notice it was hesistating when starting throughout the day. Woke up today, it would not start, but just jumped it again. Drove to my local shop to try and pick up a battery.

They tested the battery and it was showing fully charged. However, as I went to turn off the car the system went crazy flashing the 4X4 screen and would not turn off. Eventually got it to turn off or at least I thought. The belt was still moving almost like it was attempting to start again. Finally after a few minutes it shut off. This is the best way I could explain it. The garage compared it to diesels shutting off.

I checked the fuses and when I checked f8 it appeared to have fault. I pulled it out for about a minute and replaced it with the same fuse. It fired right up. Got back home, turned it off and tried to restart, but no luck. Pulled out the f8 fuse again for about a minute and put back in the same fuse once again. Started right up.

Anyone ever experience the same issue? I am thinking it is a bad fuel relay somewhere and maybe by pulling the fuse it is resetting and temporarily working or when I jump it the power gives it the connection to turn over. Thank you in advance!
 
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Old Dec 10, 2023 | 07:37 PM
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To clarify, it’s cranking but not starting?

Bad fuel pump or relay would not cause the electrical faults.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2023 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by abran
To clarify, it’s cranking but not starting?

Bad fuel pump or relay would not cause the electrical faults.
Before jumping or pulling/replacing the relay, it simply clicks. After doing one of the two, it does start. Also, when the electrical fault occurred (flashing the 4x4 screen options), there was a battery tester connected. Not sure if it had an impact, but worth mentioning. Thanks for the reply!
 
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Old Dec 11, 2023 | 06:00 AM
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All that you are experiencing are symptoms of a bad battery….
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Old Dec 11, 2023 | 01:17 PM
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If battery checks out, clicking can mean bad starter relay or bad starter.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2023 | 01:40 PM
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true enough. And there is a reason that one of the first pinpoint tests from the workshop manual is…
 
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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 07:23 PM
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Changed out the battery as a potential fix even though everything started as normal throughout Sunday afternoon and all day Monday. Still experienced a glitch in the display after the battery was replaced. Even took it to my LR shop to confirm relay, starter, alternator, etc.. and everything checked out.



 
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Old Dec 13, 2023 | 06:11 AM
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Glad the change of battery has you running.
I don’t understand “display glitch”.

Many think of the electric systems of yesterday when dealing with vehicles of today. (battery, fuse, relay)
It is still just simple electrical theory, but the introduction of managed modules need be considered:
Power source and a collection of electrical systems with power demand.
These systems have a start up sequence.

Therefore, may I propose that before engine shutdown, all systems are turned off.
Then after engine startup, turn on the systems you need.
Available power to these systems is affected by 2 expensive systems: the starter and the climate fan.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2023 | 09:54 AM
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Guy:

Thanks again for the recommendations and insight. By glitch, the touch screen bounces between the main menu and the 4x4 menu. This occurred twice over the weekend, once when getting the battery tested and another after replacing the battery at my local LR shop.

Just curious, the climate fan/compressor occasionally raddles/clicks and on my list to replace before next summer as it seems to not be working 100%. As of now, the air is not often used because of my local climate, but when used for extended period or on high, the raddle/click comes back. Wondering if the power issues could have any correlation with the climate unit getting old???
 
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Old Dec 31, 2023 | 10:44 AM
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Thanks again to everyone for the response/discussion. I replaced the battery a few weeks ago, then this morning the issue (gremlin) reappeared. Went to start the car, but would not start and displayed the 4X4 menu once again (e.g., were you may select the driving modes). Turned it completely off again and after a few tries, it started as if nothing was wrong. Drove it a few miles and let it sit for about an hour, and sure enough it had trouble starting again. Gave it a moment, then it started right up. During the second event, the screen was the normal menu and not the 4X4 menu. Very frustrating, but somewhat laughable as all of my LRs seem to experience issues around the same time.

For reference, I have made it a new habit to turn off air, etc.. before shutting off the LR4. Only thing I can guess was on before it shut off was the auto steering adjustment when you open the door.

When I took it to my local LR shop, they could not explain the issue and did witness it once after replacing the battery.

During the initials issue I did see a thread where someone was experiencing a similar issue and believe it was related to the battery cables. Still looking to see if I can find the same thread.
 
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