Discovery V vs Toyota or Jeep in Alaskan Winters
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Hey guys, I have been a current owner of a Discovery V from 2018 and have already put in close to 50K miles on that. I love driving the car and it has never failed on me big time other than minor technical and electrical glitches. I have the disco in Seattle WA but most of my travels take me to around Fairbanks Alaska and even interior Alaska in search of the Aurora in winter. I always end up renting a Jeep Cherokee Latitude from a local Alaskan rental company and it has worked well so far, at least on road. I know that's not the car you want in Alaska but given how many times I go, it gets expensive. They do provide studded tires though which is a huge benefit in itself when on road. Since covid, I have been working remotely and worked from a remote cabin in Alaska last winter for close to 3 months. I loved my time and intend to do that again next year. I had the Jeep with me throughout but I was missing the rover all the time. There were so many inner roads, ice roads, etc that I could have tackled with the disco which I did not dare try with the Jeep latitude. I actually got stuck trying to do that once and you don't want to get stuck in those winters as it can literally kill you if you are not prepared enough. So I decided I will take my car with me next time. Either drive it to Fairbanks from Seattle if the border is open or ship it in time. And it's there that I am not sure whether I want to keep the disco or trade it in for a Toyota or a jeep, mostly something like a Tacoma, tundra, 4runner, rubicon, gladiator, etc. Don't get me wrong, I am pretty sure my disco can handle any road I throw at it. I am not gonna do crazy off-roading just for the sake of it, most of my off-roading will be a way to whatever destination I am going, that can be a gravel road, an ice road, frozen rivers, etc. I had in fact driven the disco on the ice roads in northern Alberta in Canada around Wood Buffalo National Park in December. I never had any problems although it does not have a rear diff. I needed to put it in low range a few times but that's all about it. I had Nokian snow tires fitted. But reliability is what I am worried about. I never had mechanical or major electrical issues in my car but there has been something going on or the other all the time, like tpms false errors, key fobs not working even after changing batteries, frequent problems with the AC (too much fogging in extreme cold), etc. I heavily rely on the car running out in Alaska as that's pretty much your only major source of heat. I have even photographed the aurora at temperatures as low as -55 F and have slept in the car after that with the heater running and with a CO alarm beside me. You really have to be on your toes with the aurora, else you will miss it. So I am very personal with my car. Its like a small home to me. So its extremely important for me that the car keeps running. I never had problems with the Jeep, also the disco was fine during the northern Canada trip although the key fob was causing issues. But I am not really sure whether it can keep doing it day in and day out. Also, there is no land rover dealership in Alaska, not even in Anchorage. On top of that, the disco takes premium high octane gas. The max octane which I can find regularly around Fairbanks is 91. Anywhere remote, 87 is what you will get. So all this makes me want to play safe but I dont want to blend with the crowd either. Does anybody have any first-hand day-to-day experience with such temperatures in a land rover?
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While it doesn’t matter if the electric steering height adjust stops working, given the vehicle uses electronics for everything including it’s off road ability, I’d be inclined to use something simpler like a Jeep Wrangler although they’re horrible in cold weather without additional insulation. So maybe a land cruiser.
The lack of a Land Rover dealer and premium fuel compounds that decision.
There is a guy on YouTube running a new a Defender (which is practically the same vehicle for this debate) in the north of Canada which might make for good viewing: shedlock2000
The lack of a Land Rover dealer and premium fuel compounds that decision.
There is a guy on YouTube running a new a Defender (which is practically the same vehicle for this debate) in the north of Canada which might make for good viewing: shedlock2000
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While it doesn’t matter if the electric steering height adjust stops working, given the vehicle uses electronics for everything including it’s off road ability, I’d be inclined to use something simpler like a Jeep Wrangler although they’re horrible in cold weather without additional insulation. So maybe a land cruiser.
The lack of a Land Rover dealer and premium fuel compounds that decision.
There is a guy on YouTube running a new a Defender (which is practically the same vehicle for this debate) in the north of Canada which might make for good viewing: shedlock2000
The lack of a Land Rover dealer and premium fuel compounds that decision.
There is a guy on YouTube running a new a Defender (which is practically the same vehicle for this debate) in the north of Canada which might make for good viewing: shedlock2000
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I’m jealous of your Alaska adventures.
I spend a year at Clear AFS north of Denali and absolutely loved it up there.
I had a 3 year old Jeep Wrangler with oil pan heater, battery heater and indoor heater. I drove great but electric system was ruined after 1 harsh Alaska winter.
I had to sell the vehicle after I moved back to the lower 48.
Point of my story, avoid a Jeep Wrangler. Electronics are exposed and not well insulated in a Jeep Wrangler.
I do agree that no LR dealer is a major liability for you.
4Runner is your best bet.
I own a 2020 Land Rover Discovery 5. So far no issues!
I spend a year at Clear AFS north of Denali and absolutely loved it up there.
I had a 3 year old Jeep Wrangler with oil pan heater, battery heater and indoor heater. I drove great but electric system was ruined after 1 harsh Alaska winter.
I had to sell the vehicle after I moved back to the lower 48.
Point of my story, avoid a Jeep Wrangler. Electronics are exposed and not well insulated in a Jeep Wrangler.
I do agree that no LR dealer is a major liability for you.
4Runner is your best bet.
I own a 2020 Land Rover Discovery 5. So far no issues!
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Hey guys, I have been a current owner of a Discovery V from 2018 and have already put in close to 50K miles on that. I love driving the car and it has never failed on me big time other than minor technical and electrical glitches. I have the disco in Seattle WA but most of my travels take me to around Fairbanks Alaska and even interior Alaska in search of the Aurora in winter. I always end up renting a Jeep Cherokee Latitude from a local Alaskan rental company and it has worked well so far, at least on road. I know that's not the car you want in Alaska but given how many times I go, it gets expensive. They do provide studded tires though which is a huge benefit in itself when on road. Since covid, I have been working remotely and worked from a remote cabin in Alaska last winter for close to 3 months. I loved my time and intend to do that again next year. I had the Jeep with me throughout but I was missing the rover all the time. There were so many inner roads, ice roads, etc that I could have tackled with the disco which I did not dare try with the Jeep latitude. I actually got stuck trying to do that once and you don't want to get stuck in those winters as it can literally kill you if you are not prepared enough. So I decided I will take my car with me next time. Either drive it to Fairbanks from Seattle if the border is open or ship it in time. And it's there that I am not sure whether I want to keep the disco or trade it in for a Toyota or a jeep, mostly something like a Tacoma, tundra, 4runner, rubicon, gladiator, etc. Don't get me wrong, I am pretty sure my disco can handle any road I throw at it. I am not gonna do crazy off-roading just for the sake of it, most of my off-roading will be a way to whatever destination I am going, that can be a gravel road, an ice road, frozen rivers, etc. I had in fact driven the disco on the ice roads in northern Alberta in Canada around Wood Buffalo National Park in December. I never had any problems although it does not have a rear diff. I needed to put it in low range a few times but that's all about it. I had Nokian snow tires fitted. But reliability is what I am worried about. I never had mechanical or major electrical issues in my car but there has been something going on or the other all the time, like tpms false errors, key fobs not working even after changing batteries, frequent problems with the AC (too much fogging in extreme cold), etc. I heavily rely on the car running out in Alaska as that's pretty much your only major source of heat. I have even photographed the aurora at temperatures as low as -55 F and have slept in the car after that with the heater running and with a CO alarm beside me. You really have to be on your toes with the aurora, else you will miss it. So I am very personal with my car. Its like a small home to me. So its extremely important for me that the car keeps running. I never had problems with the Jeep, also the disco was fine during the northern Canada trip although the key fob was causing issues. But I am not really sure whether it can keep doing it day in and day out. Also, there is no land rover dealership in Alaska, not even in Anchorage. On top of that, the disco takes premium high octane gas. The max octane which I can find regularly around Fairbanks is 91. Anywhere remote, 87 is what you will get. So all this makes me want to play safe but I dont want to blend with the crowd either. Does anybody have any first-hand day-to-day experience with such temperatures in a land rover?
straight from the owners manual...
...if premium unleaded fuel is not available, use unleaded fuel with a lower octane rating, down to a minimum of 87 AKI...
Discovery V has been all over the world. Why should Alaska be any different?
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Cool gig, bet you experience some amazing things! Did you do the Alaska Highway drive from WA? The lap up through Kamloops is amazing, though the lesser travelled Jasper to Spokane might even be better.
I've spent time recreationally & professionally in some pretty cold places in northern Canada. We've done time around Prince George, Grand Prairie, Slave Lake and of course Banff & Jasper etc year around. It gets pretty cold. My advise is go with what the locals have. Reliability, RF (not cellular) remote start, good tyres, big fuel tanks, and good HVAC non negotiable. In small town BC, Tacomas reign for the outdoor set, then the domestics if you're into sledding.
Good luck.
I've spent time recreationally & professionally in some pretty cold places in northern Canada. We've done time around Prince George, Grand Prairie, Slave Lake and of course Banff & Jasper etc year around. It gets pretty cold. My advise is go with what the locals have. Reliability, RF (not cellular) remote start, good tyres, big fuel tanks, and good HVAC non negotiable. In small town BC, Tacomas reign for the outdoor set, then the domestics if you're into sledding.
Good luck.
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