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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 11:48 AM
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OK, she is here- Its in the cruise control menu. Good luck
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 03:28 PM
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Hi Abran, thanks for the input. Is your car also the new Disco V? If so, how did you set up the distance? Please advise.

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Hi - think there is some confusion on here. Let me try and clarify:

AEB is the emergency autonomous braking system. It's standard on all the Disco V vehicles (certainly in the USA). Same on Disco Sport too. The has forward alert which will give you an alert if there is a potential collision upcoming. And if you are not stopping in time it will apply the brakes on your behalf. Be clear that it may not stop the vehicle in time, but will massively reduce the speed of a collision (and may well stop it). You activate it through the menus using buttons on the steering wheel. Forward Alert and collision avoidance can both be turned on with check boxes on that menu. It's either on or off - there is no distance setting.

Totally separately is adaptive cruise (ACC) which is part of the drive pro package. This paces the cruise control off the car in front (i.e. if you're cruising at 65mph and come up behind a car at 60mph it will hold you at 60mph). You can adjust the distance behind that car that you are paced, using steering wheel controls. But that's nothing to do with auto braking.

So back to the OP - it sounds like your vehicle is working correctly. It gave you the alert and you managed to brake in time. If you didn't brake, then probably it would have done that for you, but better not to test it!
 
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Old Oct 25, 2018 | 05:34 PM
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^Correct, Im sorry. I mixed my features.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BritCars
Hi - think there is some confusion on here. Let me try and clarify:

AEB is the emergency autonomous braking system. It's standard on all the Disco V vehicles (certainly in the USA). Same on Disco Sport too. The has forward alert which will give you an alert if there is a potential collision upcoming. And if you are not stopping in time it will apply the brakes on your behalf. Be clear that it may not stop the vehicle in time, but will massively reduce the speed of a collision (and may well stop it). You activate it through the menus using buttons on the steering wheel. Forward Alert and collision avoidance can both be turned on with check boxes on that menu. It's either on or off - there is no distance setting.

Totally separately is adaptive cruise (ACC) which is part of the drive pro package. This paces the cruise control off the car in front (i.e. if you're cruising at 65mph and come up behind a car at 60mph it will hold you at 60mph). You can adjust the distance behind that car that you are paced, using steering wheel controls. But that's nothing to do with auto braking.

So back to the OP - it sounds like your vehicle is working correctly. It gave you the alert and you managed to brake in time. If you didn't brake, then probably it would have done that for you, but better not to test it!

Hi Britcars, many thanks for the input. I will go to the dealer and try to explain the same. What the dealer mentioned few days back was - AEB works only when fitted with ACC and AEB will not work independently which means it will NOT apply brakes automatically in case of imminent collision. The description you provided is from the manual or any land rover website that I can refer to when I see the dealer next week? Please let me know.

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Old Oct 26, 2018 | 06:46 PM
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Here is the LR info on the Disco sport showing that they have aeb as standard on all models (except in a few markets where its an optional extra)
I assume there is a similar description somewhere for Disco V

Also if you go to topix, register and put in your vin you can get the full build sheet for your car with all features and I'd expect they list it separately too.

https://www.landrover.com/vehicles/n...y-braking.html
 
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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 12:12 PM
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Here is the LR info on the Disco sport showing that they have aeb as standard on all models (except in a few markets where its an optional extra)<br />I assume there is a similar description somewhere for Disco V<br /><br />Also if you go to topix, register and put in your vin you can get the full build sheet for your car with all features and I'd expect they list it separately too.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.landrover.com/vehicles/new-discovery-sport/autonomous-emergency-braking.html">https://www.landrover.com/vehicles/new-discovery-sport/autonomous-emergency-braking.html</a>
<br /><br /><br />Hi BritCars, the dealer forwarded me pdf documents about the AEB. No where in the PDF it mentions that AEB will only work when fitted with ACC. Am I missing something here? As per the pdf AEB should be independent, right? Attached are the pdf's for your review. Please let me knoe if I am understanding it incorrectly? <br /><br />Thanks,<br />Rsquare
 
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Old Oct 29, 2018 | 05:49 PM
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Indeed. You are spot on and exactly as I described above. No mention of ACC here and clearly shows AEB braking is unrelated to ACC

So many acronyms and features that dealers are confused too! Plus we drive the vehicles every day and they don't so it's hard for them to know all the details. But seems like you can correct them on this one!
 
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BritCars
Indeed. You are spot on and exactly as I described above. No mention of ACC here and clearly shows AEB braking is unrelated to ACC

So many acronyms and features that dealers are confused too! Plus we drive the vehicles every day and they don't so it's hard for them to know all the details. But seems like you can correct them on this one!


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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 11:25 PM
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Hi Brit cars, need your input/advice. I just came back from the dealer after my 3rd visit to the dealer in the last 2 months. Went to the dealer for the same vibration issue. So far, my car has been in the work shop for more than a month (if you consolidate all the time frames)

- The last time they changed all the 4 tires they did a road force balance(RFB) test and mentioned that the settings are with in specs. They were able to fix the vibration issue up-to 80%.
- I took the car back to the dealership for 2 complaints - Now, slight vibration between 67-74 MPH and the AEB issue.
- They are giving all vague reasons that the vibration is due to size of the tires and the RFB test came out with in specs (attached the latest report) and the car is working as per the design etc. I even took one of the service technician for a ride with speed limits 67-78 and they observed a slight vibration in the steering. Now, they are saying that all the tests are done at or below 60 MPH(ideal conditions) and not at high speeds like 70 and above. They are trying to spin a different theory every time I counter with facts. Basically, they didn't want to address the issue any more as the engineers are clue less.
- Is AEB dependent on ACC? that's what they mentioned in the summary report which is attached to this thread.
My Q is, these kind of issues if not resolved/rectified by the dealer who sold the car, Is legal route an option? I never had an experience or been in a situation like this. Appreciate your input.

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Old Nov 16, 2018 | 10:14 AM
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In the owners manual they state the speeds and types of emergencies it was designed for. Also check to see if you have forward facing cameras.

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