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Old Aug 16, 2017 | 06:54 PM
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It must be nice when you can wrap everything up in a meme.

Yup, the history of violence with Nazism, white nationalism and the KKK is most certainly the same as Black Lives Matter.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2017 | 06:59 PM
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Here's a link to a Libertarian think tank, the Cato Institute. They studied violence amongst extremist groups, Muslim, right wing, left wing, ect. Obviously, what with 9/11, the Muslim extremists were the most violent. However, factor out 9/11 and right wing extremists are the most violent group killing and injuring more people than any other group.

These are facts, not cute little posts like I see on Reddit.

https://www.cato.org/blog/terrorism-...sville-anomaly
 
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Old Aug 16, 2017 | 07:00 PM
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For those less inclined to read the article, here are a few screen shots of the findings.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2017 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Grant
It must be nice when you can wrap everything up in a meme.
Yep.

Yup, the history of violence with Nazism, white nationalism and the KKK is most certainly the same as Black Lives Matter.
Boy, you sure have a strange way of interpreting those meme's. For being "so simple" to understand...you sure missed the mark. For some reason the previous transgender/gay hugging, side-saddle riding, dope smoking, unpatriotic, racist POTUS didn't get the brow-beating at every turn from the media. From day one, the media has pounded every move the current administration has made.

For what it's worth, for the left that just doesn't seem to get "IT"...Obama put Trump in office...not the KKK. His eight years of ruining this country put Trump in office...not the KKK. The hatred for his way of bringing racial tensions to an all-time high, while blacken the eye of every law enforcement agency across the nation and blaming everything that's wrong with the black population on "old whitey" put Trump in office...again...not the KKK or their likes. His transgender/gay rights agenda put Trump in office...again...not the KKK. His disrespectful speeches concerning American patriotism and his wife's anti-American rhetoric/hate speak put Trump in office...again...for the last time...not the KKK.

Obama was most definitely, by leaps and bounds, the worst President my eyes and mind had ever endured, plan and simple. Had little to none hatred in my heart until his reign took hold. The way things are today in this country rest squarely upon his shoulders, though he didn't have much of those.

Oh...the last meme was in reference to laying blame. Not a comparison of haters.

Done here...have a nice evening.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2017 | 11:08 PM
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I have to ask, exactly how many Presidents have you had to endure.

There was no secret in where your second meme came from. What was the website at the bottom of the piece, Obama: the enemy within? Yeah, no mystery as to where you stand. Let me guess, you probably don't believe Obama was born in the US either. How about Ping Pong Pizza, a restaurant in DC or the site for Democratic run pedophilia ring?

Now, about your ascertion that I said the KLK elected Trump. I didn't say that, it was straight from David Duke's mouth and can be seen on a myriad of videos. I know exactly what gave a Trump the electoral college, just under 70 thousand votes spread across three northern states. His election, in terms of the actual vote is only outdone by that of Lincoln in 1860 but at least in 1860 Lincoln was able to win the plurality of the vote.

But, wait, I'm sure, with no proof whatsoever, you also believe that between 3-5 million undocumented aliens all voted for Clinton otherwise Trump would have had a resounding victory in the popular vote.

Hell, isn't that why he appointed Kris Kobach to head up the commission on voting? Sure, because he was so effective rooting out illegal voters in Kansas. After years of tearing through voting records on that state what did he come away with as proof of rampant voter fraud, oh that's right less than a dozen examples in a state of 3 million people. Wasn't the one person he actually prosecuted an older Republican man who was caught voting in both the Colorado and Kansas local elections? There you have it. Evidence of rampant voter fraud in Kansas. I bet those votes turned the tide in countless races for dog catcher in western Kansas. What a waste of money.

Now we have Kobach demanding all sorts of voter information ranging from SS#'s to individual voting patterns. He wants all that data stored where? How secure will it be? Isn't it against the law for many of states to provide that data? Didn't Kobach himself get found guilty by a court over the handling of his own state's records. Yeah, that's just the man I want investigating voter fraud.

So tell me, what else have you learned from sites like "Obama: the enemy within.?" What are some of the other sources of news and information that you use to help you arrive at the opinion the Obama and his America hating wife? I actually enjoy checking out sources that other people rely upon in formulating their world view so I'm genuinely interested.

And don't forget, I still want to know exactly how many Presidencies you've lived through enabling you to say Obama was the worst.

Sleep tight. I'm sure we'll talk more tomorrow.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 12:04 AM
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It would appear as though the counterprotesters DID have a permit for an organized demonstration in two adjacent parks in Charlottesville.

https://www.scribd.com/mobile/docume...val#from_embed
 
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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 06:52 AM
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I'm 40, and my life isn't unbareable at all.
I'm very happy. I concern myself with which I have personal control over. As for big government, I cannot control them, and concern myself not with what they do.
I just watch the chaos, and shake my head.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 08:28 AM
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I completely appreciate your position. I am just a different animal. No better or worse. I was raised to be politically active. From the early 1970's I was engaged in both local and national issues. To this day I am still involved. I can't help but believe, wholly, in Margaret Mead's statement:

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has."
 

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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Grant
I completely appreciate your position. I am just a different animal. No better or worse. I was raised to be politically active. From the early 1970's I was engaged in both local and national issues. To this day I am still involved. I can't help but believe, wholly, in Margaret Mead's statement:

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has."
I am not a negative person, so I agree with her statement.
I think all of us could do a better job in how we go about change, and more importantly, how we treat one another.
I am a Christian, a hypocrit, a sinner, and I count myself better than no one.
I tend to avoid politics. I do belive that change is needed in almost, if not every, aspect of government. I also belive that political correctness, and too many people "offended" by almost everything, as well as a liberal generation that feels they are "entitled" to everything...is not the answer.
I am in disbelife when I hear of "safe spaces" on college campus's. Really? College is where you go to learn a skill or trade, and hear veiwpoints from All points of veiw. You then form your own opinions and belifes of the real world of work and society. Then you actually go to work and really start to learn. These cry babies don't realize that there are no safe spaces in the real world.
You can't go sit in a corner and cry because you heard an offensive word.
Finally, I am in disbelife that I actually posted in a political thread. I mean no ill will towards anyone, and I am open to civil discussion. Such as, I have an 04 Disco 2. I came here looking for advice. I have been given nothing but good help from some very good people, and I am grateful for it.
 

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Old Aug 17, 2017 | 10:32 AM
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When it comes to nonsense like safe spaces and the ability for people to be unwilling to listen to alternative opinions, I am right there with you. As I mentioned above, the fact that progressives like Richard Dawson, conservatives like Ann Coulter, scientists like Murray Kauffman and provocateurs like Milo Yiannopoulos are banned from universities is outrageous.

However, when it comes to neo Nazism and the accompanying hate groups that coalesce around that ideology, I get frightened, especially by the fact that so many younger people seem devoid of any link to the consequences of that ideology. I don't know if you listened to the Vice episode where a reporter was allowed to follow a group of neo **** white supremacists around last Saturday but the comments about Jews, people of color and people with a different sexual orientation was pretty chilling. Is that really how we want America to be. Is that really something that's OK with you?

I simply can't understand that level of hate and, in my heart of hearts, believe that level of hate knows no equal.
 
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