2022 Defender orders taking place now
#1441
12-09-2021, 05:55 PM
Hi all, I'm putting in an order for a Defender X next week.. I have questions.
- Assuming my local dealer puts the order through, am I committed to purchasing that vehicle from them when it arrives? Or can I change LR dealer to get a better deal on the factory order? Seems some dealers are doubling down on price gouging, while other dealers are flexible and going for MSRP.
- Any particular tricks/tips in regards to ordering?
Defender specific question:
It's pretty much impossible to test drive a Defender these days. I've only seen it *once* since its debut in 2020. I'd love to know what kind of ride quality it has. Is it rough, firm, squishy, etc? I'm coming from a 2019 Tesla Model S, it's pretty rough with 19" rims - taking that car on trips has been a nightmare. My wife has a 2021 Volvo XC90 which has an excellent ride quality, it's smooth, quiet (road noise-wise) and squishy. Obviously I'm not expecting that kind of ride, but would love to know where the Defender comes in terms of ride quality. I live in the SF Bay Area and the roads absolutely suck with potholes/bumpy roads everywhere.
Side note: I'm already aware that delivery will take about 6-9 months at the moment. Not in a big rush.
- Assuming my local dealer puts the order through, am I committed to purchasing that vehicle from them when it arrives? Or can I change LR dealer to get a better deal on the factory order? Seems some dealers are doubling down on price gouging, while other dealers are flexible and going for MSRP.
- Any particular tricks/tips in regards to ordering?
Defender specific question:
It's pretty much impossible to test drive a Defender these days. I've only seen it *once* since its debut in 2020. I'd love to know what kind of ride quality it has. Is it rough, firm, squishy, etc? I'm coming from a 2019 Tesla Model S, it's pretty rough with 19" rims - taking that car on trips has been a nightmare. My wife has a 2021 Volvo XC90 which has an excellent ride quality, it's smooth, quiet (road noise-wise) and squishy. Obviously I'm not expecting that kind of ride, but would love to know where the Defender comes in terms of ride quality. I live in the SF Bay Area and the roads absolutely suck with potholes/bumpy roads everywhere.
Side note: I'm already aware that delivery will take about 6-9 months at the moment. Not in a big rush.
If you decide to back out of the deal, they'll happily refund and throw on a "market adjustment" that someone will gladly pay not to wait for one to arrive.
Ride is great. You'll be very pleased with how it drives.
#1442
12-09-2021, 05:56 PM
I didn't realize the ladders were ever factory installed.
Dealer or self installation is the norm.
It's a simple install to do yourself if you're so inclined. Plenty of ladders available at dealerships.
Dealer or self installation is the norm.
It's a simple install to do yourself if you're so inclined. Plenty of ladders available at dealerships.
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#1443
12-09-2021, 09:04 PM
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#1444
12-10-2021, 10:20 AM
#1445
12-10-2021, 11:35 AM
Rock Crawling
Hi all, I'm putting in an order for a Defender X next week.. I have questions.
- Assuming my local dealer puts the order through, am I committed to purchasing that vehicle from them when it arrives? Or can I change LR dealer to get a better deal on the factory order? Seems some dealers are doubling down on price gouging, while other dealers are flexible and going for MSRP.
- Any particular tricks/tips in regards to ordering?
Defender specific question:
It's pretty much impossible to test drive a Defender these days. I've only seen it *once* since its debut in 2020. I'd love to know what kind of ride quality it has. Is it rough, firm, squishy, etc? I'm coming from a 2019 Tesla Model S, it's pretty rough with 19" rims - taking that car on trips has been a nightmare. My wife has a 2021 Volvo XC90 which has an excellent ride quality, it's smooth, quiet (road noise-wise) and squishy. Obviously I'm not expecting that kind of ride, but would love to know where the Defender comes in terms of ride quality. I live in the SF Bay Area and the roads absolutely suck with potholes/bumpy roads everywhere.
Side note: I'm already aware that delivery will take about 6-9 months at the moment. Not in a big rush.
- Assuming my local dealer puts the order through, am I committed to purchasing that vehicle from them when it arrives? Or can I change LR dealer to get a better deal on the factory order? Seems some dealers are doubling down on price gouging, while other dealers are flexible and going for MSRP.
- Any particular tricks/tips in regards to ordering?
Defender specific question:
It's pretty much impossible to test drive a Defender these days. I've only seen it *once* since its debut in 2020. I'd love to know what kind of ride quality it has. Is it rough, firm, squishy, etc? I'm coming from a 2019 Tesla Model S, it's pretty rough with 19" rims - taking that car on trips has been a nightmare. My wife has a 2021 Volvo XC90 which has an excellent ride quality, it's smooth, quiet (road noise-wise) and squishy. Obviously I'm not expecting that kind of ride, but would love to know where the Defender comes in terms of ride quality. I live in the SF Bay Area and the roads absolutely suck with potholes/bumpy roads everywhere.
Side note: I'm already aware that delivery will take about 6-9 months at the moment. Not in a big rush.
Last edited by Chief65; 12-10-2021 at 11:39 AM.
#1446
12-10-2021, 11:47 AM
Hi all, I'm putting in an order for a Defender X next week.. I have questions.
- Assuming my local dealer puts the order through, am I committed to purchasing that vehicle from them when it arrives? Or can I change LR dealer to get a better deal on the factory order? Seems some dealers are doubling down on price gouging, while other dealers are flexible and going for MSRP.
- Any particular tricks/tips in regards to ordering?
Defender specific question:
It's pretty much impossible to test drive a Defender these days. I've only seen it *once* since its debut in 2020. I'd love to know what kind of ride quality it has. Is it rough, firm, squishy, etc? I'm coming from a 2019 Tesla Model S, it's pretty rough with 19" rims - taking that car on trips has been a nightmare. My wife has a 2021 Volvo XC90 which has an excellent ride quality, it's smooth, quiet (road noise-wise) and squishy. Obviously I'm not expecting that kind of ride, but would love to know where the Defender comes in terms of ride quality. I live in the SF Bay Area and the roads absolutely suck with potholes/bumpy roads everywhere.
Side note: I'm already aware that delivery will take about 6-9 months at the moment. Not in a big rush.
- Assuming my local dealer puts the order through, am I committed to purchasing that vehicle from them when it arrives? Or can I change LR dealer to get a better deal on the factory order? Seems some dealers are doubling down on price gouging, while other dealers are flexible and going for MSRP.
- Any particular tricks/tips in regards to ordering?
Defender specific question:
It's pretty much impossible to test drive a Defender these days. I've only seen it *once* since its debut in 2020. I'd love to know what kind of ride quality it has. Is it rough, firm, squishy, etc? I'm coming from a 2019 Tesla Model S, it's pretty rough with 19" rims - taking that car on trips has been a nightmare. My wife has a 2021 Volvo XC90 which has an excellent ride quality, it's smooth, quiet (road noise-wise) and squishy. Obviously I'm not expecting that kind of ride, but would love to know where the Defender comes in terms of ride quality. I live in the SF Bay Area and the roads absolutely suck with potholes/bumpy roads everywhere.
Side note: I'm already aware that delivery will take about 6-9 months at the moment. Not in a big rush.
model S rides worse than a defender especially once you spec it with smaller wheels. They make a huge difference. 18s are epic 19s are good, 20s are ok. The larger you go the closer you get to the model s ride. You can get up to 22”s on the defender.
the main issue on the defender imo is wind noise due to the windshield angle, it’ll be higher than a model s.
fyi I currently have 2022 model S and I have a 23 defender on order.
i highly recommend going with stevens Creek LR it’s the only one in the bay not playing games. But also I have had mine on order for a month and it’s still not accepted by JLR. So delivery date of yours would likely be august/September 2022 if I had to guess
#1448
12-10-2021, 08:01 PM
fellow Bay Area resident here.
model S rides worse than a defender especially once you spec it with smaller wheels. They make a huge difference. 18s are epic 19s are good, 20s are ok. The larger you go the closer you get to the model s ride. You can get up to 22”s on the defender.
the main issue on the defender imo is wind noise due to the windshield angle, it’ll be higher than a model s.
fyi I currently have 2022 model S and I have a 23 defender on order.
i highly recommend going with stevens Creek LR it’s the only one in the bay not playing games. But also I have had mine on order for a month and it’s still not accepted by JLR. So delivery date of yours would likely be august/September 2022 if I had to guess
model S rides worse than a defender especially once you spec it with smaller wheels. They make a huge difference. 18s are epic 19s are good, 20s are ok. The larger you go the closer you get to the model s ride. You can get up to 22”s on the defender.
the main issue on the defender imo is wind noise due to the windshield angle, it’ll be higher than a model s.
fyi I currently have 2022 model S and I have a 23 defender on order.
i highly recommend going with stevens Creek LR it’s the only one in the bay not playing games. But also I have had mine on order for a month and it’s still not accepted by JLR. So delivery date of yours would likely be august/September 2022 if I had to guess
Btw what is Stevens Creek offering specifically? I already put a deposit in today at the Livermore since they have an allocation for orders in January.
and nice to see a fellow Bay Area future Defender owner here!
#1449
12-10-2021, 08:21 PM
Thanks a lot, very helpful. I changed my build to 18” wheels based on your feedback… ride quality is very important to me. I’m kinda over the rough rides on crappy Bay Area roads after 3+ years.
Btw what is Stevens Creek offering specifically? I already put a deposit in today at the Livermore since they have an allocation for orders in January.
and nice to see a fellow Bay Area future Defender owner here!
Btw what is Stevens Creek offering specifically? I already put a deposit in today at the Livermore since they have an allocation for orders in January.
and nice to see a fellow Bay Area future Defender owner here!
I have no idea about allocations as stevens creek told me no one got any in December (US wide) and they are waiting on Jan now.
#1450
12-10-2021, 11:19 PM
Thanks bro.
Nope, Australia!
It's a sentimental purchase cos I grew up in one in the 80s. The dealer was actually amazed at my patience but then again I've been waiting for the bloody thing since 2016... Or was it 2013 when they showed the prototype on a beach???
To be honest I can't wait. I live in the outback and I have every intention of taking it places. To give you an idea, the most expensive acc is a roobar for AUD8K... blame our luxury car tax.
Nope, Australia!
It's a sentimental purchase cos I grew up in one in the 80s. The dealer was actually amazed at my patience but then again I've been waiting for the bloody thing since 2016... Or was it 2013 when they showed the prototype on a beach???
To be honest I can't wait. I live in the outback and I have every intention of taking it places. To give you an idea, the most expensive acc is a roobar for AUD8K... blame our luxury car tax.
Price in A$