Bye all, sad to go. Gas prices kicked me out
@WTFChuck Thanks for this voice of reason. As you say, it's a lot more complicated than just "it's Joe Biden's fault" because there is literally nothing that he or Congress have done to limit oil production or refining capacity in the short or even medium term. If anyone disagrees with me, please provide a link to *enacted* legislation that impacts production or refining capacity in the US - because I'm open to the possibility there may be something I have missed in the past 18 months.
(and please don't say KeystoneXL which would have taken 10-15 years to build and wouldn't impact oil availability until mid to late 2030s)
But I guess none of us come here to talk politics (or the international economics of oil discovery, exploration, extraction, distribution, and refining) so I will be quiet now
(and please don't say KeystoneXL which would have taken 10-15 years to build and wouldn't impact oil availability until mid to late 2030s)
But I guess none of us come here to talk politics (or the international economics of oil discovery, exploration, extraction, distribution, and refining) so I will be quiet now
@WTFChuck it's a lot more complicated than just "it's Joe Biden's fault" because there is literally nothing that he or Congress have done to limit oil production or refining capacity in the short or even medium term. If anyone disagrees with me, please provide a link to *enacted* legislation that impacts production or refining capacity in the US - because I'm open to the possibility there may be something I have missed in the past 18 months.
Last edited by _Allegedly; May 26, 2022 at 09:55 AM.
I am SOOOO glad I am not an administrator of any Forum or Facebook feed. It's when the threads get to this point that I would just close them and I'm sure that would be negative to both my personal stress levels & members' opinions of my sanity (if it can get more damaged). There's only two members on my blocked list. Just don't need that in my life. I'm here to enjoy things and share in Defender lore & learning. And randomly BS like I'm in a pub. See, there's the problem. I have a hard time differentiating my BS and other's BS! But when it starts entering today's divisive politics, time for me to settle up the bar tab. Is there a way to just block threads? I'm sure the right answer is just to quit going to that thread, but then I'd have to talk about my age and how easily I forget stuff...
(FWIW - This is not a statement to the previous post (or couple posts), it's just the general spin to politics over the last while).
(FWIW - This is not a statement to the previous post (or couple posts), it's just the general spin to politics over the last while).
Last edited by GrouseK9; May 26, 2022 at 08:25 AM.
Ahh, the voice of reason was posted on 5/19, when I provided this thread with the exact same article. Just saying and joking but not joking because I posted it. Also, the Keystone at full capacity would produce 830k barrels of oil a day. But we export 8.63 million a day and import 8.47 million making the US the largest producer of petroleum.
I am SOOOO glad I am not an administrator of any Forum or Facebook feed. It's when the threads get to this point that I would just close them and I'm sure that would be negative to both my personal stress levels & members' opinions of my sanity (if it can get more damaged). There's only two members on my blocked list. Just don't need that in my life. I'm here to enjoy things and share in Defender lore & learning. And randomly BS like I'm in a pub. See, there's the problem. I have a hard time differentiating my BS and other's BS! But when it starts entering today's divisive politics, time for me to settle up the bar tab. Is there a way to just block threads? I'm sure the right answer is just to quit going to that thread, but then I'd have to talk about my age and how easily I forget stuff...
(FWIW - This is not a statement to the previous post (or couple posts), it's just the general spin to politics over the last while).
(FWIW - This is not a statement to the previous post (or couple posts), it's just the general spin to politics over the last while).
I decided to get an economy vehicle as well instead of selling one of my trucks so I bought a Harley. It was the right move 50 mpg and fun as hell.
Lets leave the politics at the door and enjoy the trucks that brought us here
Lets leave the politics at the door and enjoy the trucks that brought us here
Last edited by ArmyRover; May 26, 2022 at 07:32 PM.
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