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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 12:22 PM
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Just ordered mine!
 
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 01:13 PM
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Ordered mine (in "Oyster") as well.

OMG...Just watched PowerfulUK video (mostly). My take on this is that all of that finicky little spring, pivot, cog, catch points stuff is breaking in the real world. I could NOT see a tech in a service garage dealing with this. Those console would be broken or thrown across the garage...and then broken. I would wager that LR pulled it until a better design can be established and molded into the console design. My bet...the little click-locks are failing maybe at the cog. All it take is a slip for the spring to be wrong, the owner pulling on it to fix it then taking it to the dealer to figure out which parts need to be ordered...and then breaking it again during install. COVID supply chain issues made it easy to convince management. Seriously...hot glue?...a clue

 

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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NeedaHobby
Ordered mine (in "Oyster") as well.

OMG...Just watched PowerfulUK video (mostly). My take on this is that all of that finicky little spring, pivot, cog, catch points stuff is breaking in the real world. I could NOT see a tech in a service garage dealing with this. Those console would be broken or thrown across the garage...and then broken. I would wager that LR pulled it until a better design can be established and molded into the console design. My bet...the little click-locks are failing maybe at the cog. All it take is a slip for the spring to be wrong, the owner pulling on it to fix it then taking it to the dealer to figure out which parts need to be ordered...and then breaking it again during install. COVID supply chain issues made it easy to convince management. Seriously...hot glue?...a clue
Why would a tech be regularly taking apart the sunglasses holder? I dont think that has anything to do with the shortage, its not really all that complicated to warrant a redesign. IMO, JLR are just bad at managing their supply chain and likely have single sourced parts. Add in the pressures of the current supply chain challenges and silly things are removed. I think that's why the USB charging points are now being completely removed.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 01:36 PM
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My ‘22 has 20,000 miles now and I pretty much hit that sunglass holder twice every single time I get in the truck, unless it’s after dark. I have very light-sensitive eyes and always wear sunglasses, even on overcast days. And it still works perfectly.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 01:40 PM
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The finicky little parts are broken by customers...as should be expected. The resulting warranty repair is a ridiculous choreography to be executed by Bud in service while he is seated in the employee break room...with his readers on. His fix results in a new parts order including the console frame. Its a poop design (as evidenced by the hot glue?) whose correct fix (likely a console frame) is costly. This minimize-your-losses (warranty service) approach is not new and is historically a valid reason for surprises like missing items or changes in trim level feature mid-model year. In our new world, 90% of all issues must be caused by mismanaging supply chain or maximizing profits or they just don't like us.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 01:57 PM
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lol, just watched the video, thanks for the shoutout Simon
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 06:16 PM
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Simon from powerfulUK just did a you tube video on this part and they are building ones that you can retrofit.
 
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by karlos73
Simon from powerfulUK just did a you tube video on this part and they are building ones that you can retrofit.
No way!
 
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NoGaBiker
No way!
 
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 09:13 PM
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^^^ LOL, thanks but I was being sarcastic, since like the previous 15 posts in this thread have been about Simon’s video on the retrofit kit for the sunglass holder.
 
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