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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 03:20 PM
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It has a thru-bolt in the rear of the ring, so the weaqkest point would be the bolt would it not? That style is a one-piece forged ring, so the ring should not break, but the bolt would be the limiting factor I think...

On the other style like KK pictured and the TerraFirma style, it looks like 3 pieces welded together, so the welds contribute to possible failure points as well as the bolt.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny Lee 97 Disco
It has a thru-bolt in the rear of the ring, so the weaqkest point would be the bolt would it not? That style is a one-piece forged ring, so the ring should not break, but the bolt would be the limiting factor I think...

On the other style like KK pictured and the TerraFirma style, it looks like 3 pieces welded together, so the welds contribute to possible failure points as well as the bolt.
I don't think the Jate ring or bolt will break, but the attachment point for the Jate on the frame. The frame itself appears no stronger than the factory tie downs.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 11:11 AM
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Never, ever use that light duty brush guard for a recovery point, you will tear it off and hurt someone in the process.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris-bob
I don't think the Jate ring or bolt will break, but the attachment point for the Jate on the frame. The frame itself appears no stronger than the factory tie downs.

Not at all, Ive seen the Jate ring put to the test. The tie down points on my truck got bent by AAA tow dudes winch tie down job. I straighted it out with a BFH
 
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 09:16 AM
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If you go for the Jate rings make sure you buy the original, more expensive one that don't break. There are a number of cheap knock off's that do break pretty easily.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by KingKong8247
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With these though you'll have to trim your bumper or the first time you use it the strap will most likely break the lower part of your bumper.
That is mounted to far back, you cant get a good pull on it way back there.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 09:56 AM
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The proper way to install a JATE ring is THROUGH the FRAME not through any hole it will fit.

 
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike555
The proper way to install a JATE ring is THROUGH the FRAME not through any hole it will fit.

You would need to drill a new hole to fit the Jate ring?
 
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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No, the holes are already there.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2012 | 09:12 PM
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Spike is correct as usual. And the JATE RING he shows is the original design.

Like Mike said, the cheaper ones are lesser quality, the real JATE rings are forged to a good hardness, with a knock-off who knows what metals they used or it's true capability before breaking and possibly even killing someone.

The one KK showed is not only improperly mounted, it is a three piece design that is apparently welded in the two front corners instead of being a one piece forged. With the three piece, each weld is a potential failure site, therefore it is more prone to failure than the one piece by it's very design.

And bolts will tend to break right in the threaded areas by nature if overstressed, so make sure that a correct strength and size bolt is used.

Or take your chances, do it however you may wanna, after all, you own it. It is your choice. Spin the wheel of fate if you buy a cheap JATE. Throw it on and see if it breaks loose, just warn everyone to stand way back.
 
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